Keypad Immobiliser/Alarm

[Chris Rogers]

yep. but 90% of these are done the same way. if you look you can find them in 20 sec or so.

cynically If I wanted A R33 what would I steal first ? the car or a flatbed truck?

[Chris Rogers]

mind you someone described an s15 I did a few weeks back - external siren and 2 130db screamers. couldnt sit in it and thats what the owner wanted. couldn't load it onto a tilt tray either due to a tilt sensor. Mongoose M80G WELL installed did the trick.

the next optoion is Quiktrak.

[Chris Rogers]

Oh and no brand name stickers. tells me how to override it.

[wishaw]

good point about about the stickers

[Links]

How does a tilt sensor work? does it align itself when it arms, than when the sensor detects rotation in it.. e.g. car being loaded onto flatbed it goes off??

[Chris Rogers]

link,

correct. any difference of 1-2 deg in any direction and off it goes.

[d00dz]

Guys can we stop talking about how to possiblity gain access to alarms. Might be giving people the wrong idea.. As this is a public forum and any goon can get on it to read and try stuff.

Tilt sensors have mercury in them and locks onto the position when it is armed. if the mercury moves (+/- a few micros) the alarm is tripped.

[pear]

Should have made this a poll.. i'm still open to suggestions..

currently it appears to be the Mongoose M80G vs. Brant Nemesis..

Mongoose has 90% of nemesis features without the keypad at $200 less.

For an extra $90 i can get an extra relay/kill switch fitted.. sounds like the plan to me - i guess.. i see saw with my decisions though..

Get on the Brant website and try contacting them.

I called Syd, Bris, Melb - all numbers didn't answer.

I eventually spoke to someone who told me they had gone out of business.

Does anyone know where you can still buy a Nemesis?

Service and warranty - how will that go IF Brant is no longer in business

interested to hear if they are still around and who has stock.

[lwells]

Try calling Allan (see first page of thread): he can probably point you in the right direction.

Lucien.

[Topaz]

I was just told this morning that Brant have "hit a wall" so to speak...their Nemesis system has a few glitches (I was coming off night shift and tired as a mofo...), didn't really sink in what the guy said about them, I went with Cheetah....maybe I could ask to change to Mongoose if its a fair bit better!

[Links]

Get on the Brant website and try contacting them.

I called Syd, Bris, Melb - all numbers didn't answer.

I eventually spoke to someone who told me they had gone out of business.

Does anyone know where you can still buy a Nemesis?

Service and warranty - how will that go IF Brant is no longer in business

interested to hear if they are still around and who has stock.

If you read the previous posts on this thread I think you will find all the info regarding brant.

They have gone into receivorship, however there is still a number of private people (2 of which have contact numbers in this thread) who will install them for you. I think they probably buy the units from subaru sources??

Brant effectively no longer exist as a company..

The other thing to remember is that every single WRX has one of these fitted, i would have thought they would change alarms if they didn't feel they did an adequate job.

not having brand stickers on the window is a great idea I feel..

Picking my car up on friday/sat pending RTA inspection (fuskers - teasing me like that.. having the plates right in front of me than taking them back)..

so I won't be booking in an alarm till next week, so might go check out the mongoose one's this weekend..

[wrxhoon]

In fairness though, isn't that a problem with any alarm that isn't installed properly?

LW.

Yes it is because you will find they are all in the same spot .

Every single rex has the brant in the same place so the thief will go straight to it .

Even if you do your own install and put it a different place ( totaly strange ) all they have to do is follow the keypad wires to it , this is how i traced mine quickly .

Chris Rogers , i wasn't going to tell people how to bypass it on this forum for obvious reasons . I have an easier way rather than cut wires and rejoin them much quicker than this .

To me an alarm is totaly useless ( only good to stop joyriders ) , a consealed immobliser is much better and no sirens ( they can easely find cut and them ) or any kind of stickers to suggest you have one in there , let them find out for themselves , it takes a bit longer .

I use trackers ( gps , not quiktrak , useles outside Sydney metro ) in all our cars and an immobilser that i make myself , very hard to find .

I had a car with that in it a few years ago ( pre tracker days ) , the thieves broke in to it bypassed the alarm immobilser , cut the siren off and tossed it in the sea , pulled the dash out and tried to find my immobiliser ( there for at least 3-4 hours ) . When the couldn't start it the pushed it about 100 mts and kicked every panel including the roof .

Links ,

brant do the job for joyriders ( they are stuppid ) and they rely on datadots ( every rex 02 on has them )for the rebirthers .

Trackers heve their shortcomings as well ( i'm not about to tell you what ) but they are the best protection you can get and they are getting cheaper by the day .

[Links]

Interesting read wrxhoon...

At the moment i'm not in a finiancial position to get a tracker fitted, for the moment this is a short term resolution until I get a long term fix.

eventually I will hope to have a tracker + immobiliser fitted which should resolve the issue. If they steal it than so be it, i'll catch the fuskers..

I'll consider what everyone has put up, also look into fitting a kill switch and go from there.

are GPS trackers expensive? they can feed back realtime data can't they? do you have a suggestion for brands - installers?

[Chris Rogers]

wrx hoon,

pm me pls ( want to know your background.)

[Links]

Thought i'd update this as i've finally gotten my alarm fitted.

Allen came over this morning to install the alarm - and put up with my Hangover lol (shouldn't have got so smashed last night @ the pub)..

took him about 3 hours or so to fully install the system.. everything works well.. I won't go into to many details cos you never know who's trawling the threads..

everything is working - probably not as loud as I would like, but I should hear it if it goes off and i'm nearby, would love to wire up a pager system that automatically fires a message off if the alarm goes off, don't think it would be too hard..

anyways - thought i'd let ppl know - cost me $900 fully installed for the system and was done cleanly and professionally..

Cheers,

Links

[justin911]

im thinking about getting ezitrack or something like that. On there website it talks about getting cheaper insurance, im paying $3200 a yr at the moment with just cars, how much do you guys rekon they'd take off if i got a tracking thing?

[wishaw]

i know that with my insurance the discount for an alarm was about $20 a year. That however is not through just carts and is not for a 'line

[justin911]

was the $20 for a normal alarm or was that for a gps tracking alarm type thing ?

[lwells]

The discounts for having a good alarm are minimal: don't base your decision on the hopes of recouping costs based on the official discount. However, having a good (i.e. recognised by the insurer) alarm can be the difference between them offering you insurance or declining to quote.

Lucien.

[wishaw]

and better system mean that you may never have to claim theft anyway. but as lwells said. Don't expect any discount from the insurance comapnies.