got defected

[nytrda]

Hey guys need help asap i got defected for just my pod an need to pass a blue slip. If i make up a box to go around the pod will that pass or do i need to change it to a standard airbox? Cos i didnt get 1 with the car. Cheers Jamie

[Totti]

I'm pretty sure it needs to be enclosed in an airbox to pass. You can keep the pod, but you'll need a box to house it in.

[Marsss]

This should help...

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...ead.php?t=75876

[SECURITY]

get an engineer certificate.. they usually cover exposed pods if it passes a 90db drive-by test

[MYSTR33]

nah enginers cert doesnt cover pod filters..

i made a chatty airbox from fibre glass and it passed. hahaha

[SECURITY]

they do cover them

[MYSTR33]

they do cover them

but it still has to be in an airbox

[SECURITY]

no it doesnt.

just needs to pass a drive-by db test

[someonestolecc]

My engineers says pod filter. No box.

[Babylon]

Is it worth the trouble tho getting your air filter boxed up

since i put my k&N air filter replaced the stock one i feel like i have more lag now

who nos

i wonder if any1 has ran their car on a dyno b4 and after for a pod filter

to see if it makes any difference

[Jordan]

I got done for this also, on the Slip I was given to take to the Mechanics, I need to have a "standard airbox", but the officer told me that its ok as long as its enclosed. confusing.

[DJ984]

I had a blue slip done with 2 pods exposed....

car was already engineered that way but i dunno if that made a difference.

ring around some inspection stations and see what THEY say

[elboro]

I had a blue slip done with 2 pods exposed....

car was already engineered that way but i dunno if that made a difference.

ring around some inspection stations and see what THEY say

haha very tru, i got done the saturday before last at orange grove but got it cleared quite easily.

[hanyou]

wen i got my defects cleard, the mechanic was like "why'd you take it off thats bullsh*t" haha cleard very easily.. and i wonderd why. and saw he had a turbo himself

[d00dz]

I got done for this also, on the Slip I was given to take to the Mechanics, I need to have a "standard airbox", but the officer told me that its ok as long as its enclosed. confusing.

When was this? Recently? sux0rs..

[nytrda]

hey guys thanks for all the info at the moment im just putting a vl airbox on and making a cool air induction set up. So yeh that should help me pass an then in the future i won't have any problems.

[scathing]

Technically you don't need to enclose a pod filter (I've spoken to a couple of mechanics who did the Blue Slip course, and they all agree) but try explaining that to the cops.

Don't forget, the cops can still issue you with defect notice, even if you have an engineers certificate for the mods. Its only a "notice" (they only suspect it of being defective, they're not saying it is), so they can hand that to any car in any state of modification.

As an interesting tangental anecdote:

Some time ago Ford shipped one of their sedans (can't remember if it was an up-spec Falcon or Fairlane) with driving lights that came on automatically when the headlights were turned on (because it looks "cool" and all). This is, of course, illegal. The driving lights have to have a manual switch. So cops were pulling over dead stock cars and hitting the drivers up with fines for using their driving lights inappropriately.

When some drivers told the cops they couldn't be turned off (don't know how "politely" they did it), some cops then issued them with defect notices for having a car with illegal lighting. If they can do that to a dead stock, brand new, car then even with your engineer's cert they can still hand you a notice

Of course, in the above situation the cops are technically in the right. The car is defective (even though it left Broadmeadows like that) because it fails to comply with ADR rules. The owners can appeal for leniency, but the car breaks the letter of the law. They can, and I believe did, take it out on Ford (who also recalled the cars and installed a switch).

But even if your car is ADR compliant, don't forget the cop doesn't know that. They're only given enough basic training to spot potentially defective cars. When you get canaried, that's not saying your car is illegal. Its saying its potentially illegal, and needs someone qualified to check for sure.

So why bother having an engineer's certification at all? Aside from being a legal requirement (and I know we're all law abiding citizens here), its still peace of mind and the officer is more likely to believe you when you tell him its legal and not issue you with a notice.

Of course, if you're going to give him attitude and he's having a bad day, he can always "reasonably" argue that your car's mods don't resemble what's described in the engineer's cert and suspect you've modified further since the signatory inspected the vehicle or he'll find something else to issue a notice for.

[CerealKiller]

you don't need to box up a pod filter if you get it engineered. It is defectable if you don't have a box and no engineers cert. BUT you should make a box for it as your pod's just sucking in hot air from under the bonnet...

[mass_iv]

hi mate i had the same prob not long ago, i just bought a cover for the pod and they past it for me...

so yeh i think the box should be right

[LTSJayce]

Technically you don't need to enclose a pod filter (I've spoken to a couple of mechanics who did the Blue Slip course, and they all agree) but try explaining that to the cops.

Don't forget, the cops can still issue you with defect notice, even if you have an engineers certificate for the mods. Its only a "notice" (they only suspect it of being defective, they're not saying it is), so they can hand that to any car in any state of modification.

As an interesting tangental anecdote:

Some time ago Ford shipped one of their sedans (can't remember if it was an up-spec Falcon or Fairlane) with driving lights that came on automatically when the headlights were turned on (because it looks "cool" and all). This is, of course, illegal. The driving lights have to have a manual switch. So cops were pulling over dead stock cars and hitting the drivers up with fines for using their driving lights inappropriately.

When some drivers told the cops they couldn't be turned off (don't know how "politely" they did it), some cops then issued them with defect notices for having a car with illegal lighting. If they can do that to a dead stock, brand new, car then even with your engineer's cert they can still hand you a notice

Of course, in the above situation the cops are technically in the right. The car is defective (even though it left Broadmeadows like that) because it fails to comply with ADR rules. The owners can appeal for leniency, but the car breaks the letter of the law. They can, and I believe did, take it out on Ford (who also recalled the cars and installed a switch).

But even if your car is ADR compliant, don't forget the cop doesn't know that. They're only given enough basic training to spot potentially defective cars. When you get canaried, that's not saying your car is illegal. Its saying its potentially illegal, and needs someone qualified to check for sure.

So why bother having an engineer's certification at all? Aside from being a legal requirement (and I know we're all law abiding citizens here), its still peace of mind and the officer is more likely to believe you when you tell him its legal and not issue you with a notice.

Of course, if you're going to give him attitude and he's having a bad day, he can always "reasonably" argue that your car's mods don't resemble what's described in the engineer's cert and suspect you've modified further since the signatory inspected the vehicle or he'll find something else to issue a notice for.

Nice to see someone who has a decent view on the general situation!