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nytrda

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I had a blue slip done with 2 pods exposed....

car was already engineered that way but i dunno if that made a difference.

ring around some inspection stations and see what THEY say :(

haha very tru, i got done the saturday before last at orange grove but got it cleared quite easily.

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Technically you don't need to enclose a pod filter (I've spoken to a couple of mechanics who did the Blue Slip course, and they all agree) but try explaining that to the cops.

Don't forget, the cops can still issue you with defect notice, even if you have an engineers certificate for the mods. Its only a "notice" (they only suspect it of being defective, they're not saying it is), so they can hand that to any car in any state of modification.

As an interesting tangental anecdote:

Some time ago Ford shipped one of their sedans (can't remember if it was an up-spec Falcon or Fairlane) with driving lights that came on automatically when the headlights were turned on (because it looks "cool" and all). This is, of course, illegal. The driving lights have to have a manual switch. So cops were pulling over dead stock cars and hitting the drivers up with fines for using their driving lights inappropriately.

When some drivers told the cops they couldn't be turned off (don't know how "politely" they did it), some cops then issued them with defect notices for having a car with illegal lighting. If they can do that to a dead stock, brand new, car then even with your engineer's cert they can still hand you a notice

Of course, in the above situation the cops are technically in the right. The car is defective (even though it left Broadmeadows like that) because it fails to comply with ADR rules. The owners can appeal for leniency, but the car breaks the letter of the law. They can, and I believe did, take it out on Ford (who also recalled the cars and installed a switch).

But even if your car is ADR compliant, don't forget the cop doesn't know that. They're only given enough basic training to spot potentially defective cars. When you get canaried, that's not saying your car is illegal. Its saying its potentially illegal, and needs someone qualified to check for sure.

So why bother having an engineer's certification at all? Aside from being a legal requirement (and I know we're all law abiding citizens here), its still peace of mind and the officer is more likely to believe you when you tell him its legal and not issue you with a notice.

Of course, if you're going to give him attitude and he's having a bad day, he can always "reasonably" argue that your car's mods don't resemble what's described in the engineer's cert and suspect you've modified further since the signatory inspected the vehicle or he'll find something else to issue a notice for.

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Technically you don't need to enclose a pod filter (I've spoken to a couple of mechanics who did the Blue Slip course, and they all agree) but try explaining that to the cops.

Don't forget, the cops can still issue you with defect notice, even if you have an engineers certificate for the mods. Its only a "notice" (they only suspect it of being defective, they're not saying it is), so they can hand that to any car in any state of modification.

As an interesting tangental anecdote:

Some time ago Ford shipped one of their sedans (can't remember if it was an up-spec Falcon or Fairlane) with driving lights that came on automatically when the headlights were turned on (because it looks "cool" and all). This is, of course, illegal. The driving lights have to have a manual switch. So cops were pulling over dead stock cars and hitting the drivers up with fines for using their driving lights inappropriately.

When some drivers told the cops they couldn't be turned off (don't know how "politely" they did it), some cops then issued them with defect notices for having a car with illegal lighting. If they can do that to a dead stock, brand new, car then even with your engineer's cert they can still hand you a notice

Of course, in the above situation the cops are technically in the right. The car is defective (even though it left Broadmeadows like that) because it fails to comply with ADR rules. The owners can appeal for leniency, but the car breaks the letter of the law. They can, and I believe did, take it out on Ford (who also recalled the cars and installed a switch).

But even if your car is ADR compliant, don't forget the cop doesn't know that. They're only given enough basic training to spot potentially defective cars. When you get canaried, that's not saying your car is illegal. Its saying its potentially illegal, and needs someone qualified to check for sure.

So why bother having an engineer's certification at all? Aside from being a legal requirement (and I know we're all law abiding citizens here), its still peace of mind and the officer is more likely to believe you when you tell him its legal and not issue you with a notice.

Of course, if you're going to give him attitude and he's having a bad day, he can always "reasonably" argue that your car's mods don't resemble what's described in the engineer's cert and suspect you've modified further since the signatory inspected the vehicle or he'll find something else to issue a notice for.

Nice to see someone who has a decent view on the general situation! :P

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