Best time out of a STOCK R33 25T

[rev210]

Originally posted by Skyline King

Guys.........

when TRY09s was 4ORCD (stock at first) it ran a 12.8 @113mph

it had a 3" exhaust ,pod filter,standard auto not manual,1 bar of boost and avgas and tolunene it ran those times with street rubber not slicks 1.8 60 foot.

thank you

mick

The Auto was not stock. It had been tricked up with a 3000rpm high stall and shift kit. Its best was 13.4 @ willowbank http://www.autospeed.com/A_1050/page1.html

Unless you mod the stockie you are not going to get a very reasonable time, slicks or not.

Having said that the mods don't need to cost much to get you into a mid/low 13 in street trim should you want to.

I'd say if you scored the catback on your import from japan it could cost just a bit over $1000AUS for the mid 13 and just under $2000 for a low to flat 13. Regular 98 fuel and no slicks.

[Guest Skyline King]

rev210 i think i know more than you about this car,.......

it was a stock auto no converter and it did a 12.8......don't belive what you read mate,some things are never right....

[rev210]

Originally posted by Skyline King

rev210 i think i know more than you about this car,.......

it was a stock auto no converter and it did a 12.8......don't belive what you read mate,some things are never right....

113mph terminal with only a pod filter, 3inch zorst and 1 bar of boost on a stock turbo?

Rrriiiiiiight...... (Quote Dr Evil)

[Cubes]

What I find strange is.....

I was making ~150-155rwkw. on 12psi with an exhaust and AF's tuned using the Fuel pressure reg bleed kit.

Everything else was stock.

I had a run against Andy's R33 GTR which at the time was dead stock.

He had a 5000rpm clutch dump and I had a 4000rpm launch with not much wheel spin.

I held in front where his front was sitting at my rear wheel all the way through fourth gear.

Wouldn't this indicate a low 14 possibly even high 13?!?!

Also I had a Lightened Flywheel that was the only other mod.

[kabab]

Originally posted by rev210

113mph terminal with only a pod filter, 3inch zorst and 1 bar of boost on a stock turbo?

Rrriiiiiiight...... (Quote Dr Evil)

I would take his word seeing as he probably did all the work to the car..

Hey Skyline King did it have stock ecu ?? i am asking this because i wanna know how much extra power you can get with stock by just using better fuel because most guys on here don't believe you can...

Thanks for your time..

So if you can run 12.8 with thoes mods listed a low 13 might not be out of the books with my setup...

[Guest Skyline King]

yes it had the stock ECU we turned the timing up alot as we used good octane fuel,REV210 believe it or not i'm only trying to help you guys in this topic and that is it's possible to run low 13's with a FAIRLY stock R33, i mean i have only devoted 6 years of my life understanding RB motors......so heck what would i know ( just a joke )

thanks

mick

[Shell]

Originally posted by red900ss

heh, she already offered.  

Sounds good Shell, wednesday week?

:burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout:

how about wednesday this week? It's new years day...and the way I'll be feeling, i won't really give a **** about what anyone does to my car :bahaha:

[OZ GTR35]

Kabab with cheese,

I think you might be able to do it.

Here is what I think you will need.

Slicks at the right PSI

No ELF but some octane boost/avgas/toluene to overcome our shit fuels

Remove your air filter.

Every ounce of weight out of the car.

You will need to change the suspension to at least handle a +4K launch. (But now we are not really a stocker!)

And the most important thing will be lots of practice and someone who really knows how to quarter mile. And I dont know if your the one Kababy boy?

But seriously what do I know about 1/4 mile, nothing! But my father inlaw is an old timer Drag racer, he did all the design work behind Dragway Mags, as his brother is the owner. He said the tyres and suspension and the two big things other than Horses.

[meggala]

joel your time would have been a high 13 I reckon . and yes I'm serious. but it can all turn to shit at the track. cause thats a different game.

love the 60' time skyline king is that when he was looking for a tougher trans afterward. 1.8 is quite a feat. but very doable

meggala

[rev210]

Originally posted by Skyline King

yes it had the stock ECU we turned the timing up alot as we used good octane fuel,REV210 believe it or not i'm only trying to help you guys in this topic and that is it's possible to run low 13's with a FAIRLY stock R33, i mean i have only devoted 6 years of my life understanding RB motors......so heck what would i know ( just a joke )

thanks

mick

Mick,

I appreciate that you worked on the car. Forgive me if I am a little skeptical due to the very high terminal speed. I'd love to be able to get that sort of terminal (as would anyone ) with so few mods.

I was under the impression that the stock ecu has a crap ignition timing curve. At least one not able to make too much use of the extra boost and octane. Did the car see any dyno around the time of the 12.8 / 113mph ? I'd be interested to know the result.

What brand/type of tyre was he running / mixture of tolunene / base idle timing ?

He didn't have an aftermarket intercooler did he?

I'd love to have a go and prove you right at my own expense.

[kabab]

Originally posted by Oz GTR97V

Kabab with cheese,

Cheese in kebab's is just wrong

With the suspension i my car i was taking off at 5500rpm and still bogging down.. so i don't think you would have to change suspension that much.. maybe just let the tire pressure down..

[benm]

geeze after reading this entire thread i'd love to get my car out onto a drag strip and let it rip

Now if only their were no crowds or people around so that i could practice first coz i've never driven on a track before.

[giz01]

Originally posted by RB20LagWagon

Argh, this is a frustrating thread, so much misstruth's flying around.

Firstly Elf fuel will only give horsepower if the engine is tuned for the fuel. And the fuel will probably stuff up your oxygen sensor and cat and perhaps even rubber fuel lines.  

Also a quicker 60 foot time will improve your trap speed, which is kind of obvious. if you get off to a better start then you have more track to  gain speed. That being said a "stock" (No exhaust no mods full stop) will be lucky to get into the 13s, however one with full exhaust pod and somehow tuned for the elf fuel, with slicks would go close to a 13.3

this maybe true? but EVERY run i have done plus all the runs i have seen my mates do have had bigger mph with crap 60 ft times eg my capri turbo run [email protected] yet ran a best time of [email protected] same day!

[giz01]

a COMPLETELY stock r33 gts with std everything as per the nissan factory i mean exhaust, filter everthing wouldn't do a 13 sec time, like someone else said some of you can't even run a 13 with mods so how u gonna do a low 13 stock? an auto r33 with full 3" exhaust, pod filter hks type, 12-14 psi, advanced timing and avgas will run a low 13 like a 13.2 or around this eg SUBZERO did it with try09? think it was? when it was mildly modded!

[giz01]

mick, how did you get a 1.8 60ft with the std auto? my gf's s14 auto's best was 2.16 for the [email protected]. for this i had to sit on the line and get it to just turn the tyres (boost) then go, reaction times were like 2.5 secs! a mate of mine run 12.8 @106mph in his auto z with similar mods to 4ced except it was optimax & nos octane booster!

[giz01]

and how much extra timing? think mates z runs an extra 4deg base timing?

[Cubes]

I was looking around at a few web sites today and stumbled upon a Skyline Info page.

They said the R33 would run to 100km's in 6.2 secs where as the R32 would run in 6.3 secs.

Don't really know where they got those times from.. Apparently they were the official times from nissan.

I'll have to dig up the link if my history is there. Damn history is gone..

[JET-33]

i only just read a post on here that says...

look at all these people with mods tho.... hicks is pulling 13.7 (BEST)

and he's got 14psi, POD, full zorst, FMIC.. all that...

if you can pull a high 13 stock, why spend $2500 on those mods

firstly, if he spent $2500 on all that it must be mega **** gear, and if its legit and he can only run 13.7 something is drastically wrong

[JET-33]

.....stock r33 gtst, you would have to be a very f ****n awesome driver to get into 13's, im talkin no nothin, pod, suspension..nothin..ive got an r33 with a few minor mods and its quick but some people dont realise what it actually takes to run a good time...

eg, all those vx clubsport pieces of trash, think theyve got the quickest car in the world, claimed around low 14s stock, u watch all the heroes on the track and they r lucky if they get into the 14s...ive seen many 16s even

stock..the best u could hope for is a high 13..on a cold night, i wish it was quicker though....

[Cubes]

Remember its not just all about 1/4 times. Its also about the seat of the pants feel.

Personally I'd rather a really quick car on street tyres, some thing quick 0-100.

I think just over 200rwkw is a good power level for the street much quicker and you start having to spend to much on tyres and to much worry about wheel spin.

200rwkw in a 32 with stock suspension will pull a low 13 anyhow.

Which is getting damn close to the 300k Porsche Territory.

Very similiar power (20-30rwkw) but the porche weighs an extra 300kg's.