skyline vs commodore = who would win?

[1Winner1]

skyline for sure, i raced one 2 weeks ago... ( i got 15 pound boost)

[jezzerrr]

I had some twit in a newish BA falcon take off from the lights beside me yesterday, thinking I would drag him. wanker. I just looked at him and thought "if only you knew" lol. now he'll go back to his mates and tell them he flogged a skyline no doubt.

I cant see an (equivalent of) $80K ish sports gt doing over 15 on the qtr. so no, there is no way in hell a magna could touch an r33gtst. and I had a magna for 5 years before I got this, so I have a fairly good idea of how they go.

a commodore would beat a gts, at a guess, but looking at the figures, it would be a closer race than I thought it would be... 140odd kw out of 2.5 litres is pretty damn good!

[terry.m]

I've been beaten by a few commo's but more than likely because I can't launch to save my life Upping my boost would prolly help.

[1Winner1]

im gettin my green pz in 3 months skyline looks much better with the red P lol

[**JaR**]

skyline for sure, i raced one 2 weeks ago... ( i got 15 pound boost)

lol, a commo doesnt have that though, so technically it isnt fair lol.

[R32GRUNTN]

i can see the head line's now P plater's restricted to 2000ci na & under, in five year's time just to show the public and gov that it's not power but that it is attitude.

as for dunnydores that's not an option to me anymore after year's of pain with them, last hog(worked vt) which has nothing over my 32 it's worked to and better to drive. ive had nearly every dunny model from vb-vt anyway and the best one was a vkcalais took big dollars though bastard of a thing.

[Coupe-This]

Yuck, I hate VT's that have the monaro style tail lights, doesnt suit the boot lights, its just plain wrong...

That said, holdens powerplants

3.8l Buick (Shit oil leaking pile of garbage)

304 4.9l V8 (Decent V8 that holden made)

350 5.7l V8 (early models are plaugued with probs, not so bad now tho)

the buick has a bit of poke to it, esp if they are manuals, never driven a 304 or 350.

304 prolly same power as a line, but a fair bit more torque, but more weight, and the 350, well more torque and power, so a more even match if not the commodore ontop.

[Sumo]

The 350's go alright.....

Plenty of Torque and linear power delivery, makes it a pretty boring car to drive.

The injected 304's aren't to bad as well, took a VS V8 Statesman for a run and they have plenty of poke off the line, its when you get up around 60 - 70kms/h it becomes like a yacht..

Cheers

Sumo

[dayne]

Might add my input here because i have a GTS20 manual... the cars got a full exhaust, just been serviced, and has its timing advanced a fair bit (made a massive difference).

A mate from work has a VY series II s pack manual... and we can drive about the same.

I've ran him twice for argument sake, once before timing, and once after.

The first time i got creamed (6-7 car lengths) and i was running very poor, i then ran him again after timing, this time i was running fairly decent (still a bit cold but we both were) we raced twice off two different sets of lights, the first set was around a corner for take off and i got about 3 car lengths off the start but then he pulled it into about even after a few hundred meteres. The second set was on the straight but continued up a ramp which went around a corner, this one i had a car length off the start held it for a bit then he pulled it in and eventually pulled a length on me (over about 400m) but then once it came to the corner i ripped him badly (easy 10 lengths) because they just dont handle.

It was clear his car was faster in the straight, but not HEAPS faster, you could also tell that my car was definetly faster through the corners. Baring in mind i have a Rb20, not Rb25 and my car has an exhaust, lots more timing, also has brand new pedders suspension, including shocks, springs, and its got sway bars etc. + it had just been serviced, against a stock VY II s pack.

You should be looking for the over all package mate and what you can afford, not 'whats faster' because if its the corners you will be, but if its the straight you wont be. At the end of the day im happy with what ive got, and couldnt be any happier with it:)

Dayne

[Sydneykid]

On topic, maybe

I noticed on the warranty documents that the current VZ Commondoor models have a 5 year warranty, I thought well they are must be getting better quality. Then I read the fine print.

It is only for 100,000 k's (5 years = 150,000k's for me)

It stopped on June 30: :chairshot

The diff is only covered for 12 months :confused:

The engine is only covered for 2 years:kick:

They obviously have ZERO CONFIDENCE in their cars. :spew:

Why the hell should I :Bang:

PS, Just because you aren't buying a new car, don't think the warranty doesn't mean anything to you. Holden is SO insecure in their diff quality that they won't guarantee them to last more than 12 months. So when you buy a used Commondoor, better plan on replacing the diff once a year.

[mad34]

Hi all

guys my mum has a na series 1 r33 automatic when i was a teenager i used to drive it sometimes and at the time all my mates had vl vs vr commos and whenever i got my hands on my mums 33 we used to go out dragging each other. I used to win everytime so i can't see a vt being much quicker. Commonwhores suck!!

why would you want a car made by beer swilling ferals from elizabeth SA

i have heard some really funny stories about the holden production line like employees putting empty coke cans inside door trims just for a laugh.

And as if a TJ magna would beat a 33 gtst your dreaming mate

might be really close between a gen3 and a standard 33gtst though. But i know for a fact a r34gtt beats a gen3 because i have done it a few times.

Skylines overall are just a much better car and im not being biased its just the pure fact.

[jezzerrr]

Skylines overall are just a much better car and im not being biased its just the pure fact.

Bloody oath they are. 1)They're not aussie built 2) Alot of people forget that gtst's were an 80ish grand (confirmations?) car when they came out!

That's why I looked at that wanker in his falcon and didn't even bother. I dont need to prove shit.

[Starionturbo]

I know of a Stock 94 MR2 G non turbo that chops stock 5 Liter VS auto time and time again!

[BLACKR]

ha,ha,ha what a laugh comparing skyline to commodore.

I'd rather get n/a sky then any commodore. Bulid quality is miles appart leaning on nissan's side. Now getting to the point and speaking of turbo gts-t, well they would nail commodores any time any place any how wheter its straight six or gen 3 v 8 with simple mods like exaust and pod. Commodores are heavy hence slower, there is about 250-300 kg difference. Just for a record VT'S 5 liter doees 0-100 in say over seven seconds, VX being a fraction faster as opposed to say r33 turbo that will despatch it in 6-18 sec. Ok i have to admit tha n/a sky wont beat commy but it still is a far better structured and build car no matter what

[BLACKR]

Nissan 300 zx is a top car, providing it perfect service, and overall care. Ther is no short cuts on these cars. If you provide above mentioned you will have very enjoyable car. Dont worry about people saying its got overheating probs, cramped engine etc. Dudes at nissan thought of that and had it all sussed out perfectly. While some the things can happen to them, its mostly due to lack of care. These babies were over $80000 when new and therefore parts are not cheap. Worst thing you can do is go and a 10 grand 300zx tt and expect it to perform like say GTR, sorry dude wont happen as those cheap models have been pushed to an inch of their existence. Performance wise they dispatch 0-100 in 5-6 sec in manual form. This will solemly depend on the driver's abiliy. They are very luxurious, high quality tough cars and with simple mods will bush over 220 rwkw easily. You can have this all done for less then 1000 dollars. My tip to you say if you are thinking of baying it is to go and open your wallet abit deeper, buy clear example that's got no mods, stock as possible it can be and then work your modifications up. Trust me on what i said, i had them and hence know how to treat them.

[mad34]

COMMOS SUCK ALL ROUND!! they are tin cans on wheels.

They are made on the cheap especially parts of the car that arent visible like wiring so many shorts cuts were taken.

i have never heard of skylines being recalled either and just the other day a whole heap of COMMONWHORES were recalled.

how would you feel buying a brand new car then receiving a letter or phone call stating your car needed to be recalled to rectify a major problem. i would ask for refund. hahahahaha

IM SO GLAD I HAVE SKYLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!

apparently workers at the nissan factory are devoted to their jobs they all live around the factories in tight knit communities and take pride in their work and their product. thats what someone has told me i dont know how true this is, but judging by the build quality i would say it is??

has anyone ever been there and seen there manufacturing plant in operation??

[OC]

thats a bummer

so is there any p plater imports that would beat it?

Hell yes. FTO GPX!

[akeenan]

[Alot of people forget that gtst's were an 80ish grand (confirmations?) car when they came out!

think this figure might be a little high .... by about 35k

[akeenan]

Alot of people forget that gtst's were an 80ish grand (confirmations?) car when they came out!

think this figure might be a little high .... by about 35k

[Kaido_RR]

im abit confused about stock r33 gtst running high 14,15scond

my r33 GTS-T has a rb20 size turbo (yes very small) and i did a 14.3 with only exhuast and air filter?