skyline vs commodore = who would win?

[AMS]

My congratulations to you though......That would have taken a while to write! Hell...it took me long enough to read :lol:

[V8skylineMAN]

working on them(300zx TT) isnt that hard, people seem to just like to anounce that they are hard to work on everytime one is mentioned.

Any car that requires the gearbox to be taken out to remove the turbos is a bastard of a car to work on. end of story.

[lingeringsoul]

just my 2c worth......I've driven an auto 2l gts b4 and yeah........can't beat much......Floored it going up a large mountain in second..................nothing.

got a R33 turbo now.....tearing up the mountainside in 5th gear

i wouldn't trade it for anything but a GTR

[AMS]

just my 2c worth......I've driven an auto 2l gts b4 and yeah........can't beat much......Floored it going up a large mountain in second..................nothing.

got a R33 turbo now.....tearing up the mountainside in 5th gear

i wouldn't trade it for anything but a GTR

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Not even for a Stagea!

[Cubes]

My old 33 ran a 13.9 @99mph with nothing more than an exhaust and dodgy frontmount? no ecu. no boost.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

WOW.. No ECU or BOOST??

Did you slap a carby (as you had no ecu) on it and front mount to cool that intake temp using the chill affect that occurs when you are going really fast?

[Patto-]

I haven't had much experience with N/A rb25s, but i know for a fact VTs are very slow, too bloody heavy.

Just about any other injected commodore will beat them, especially VS as it has ecotec engine without all the weight that the VT has. Although being a manual it would most likely be a fair bit quicker than the auto VTs that I have seen.

As far as reliability goes, I had a VL with 220k on the clock that had a new problem once a fortnight. I now have a R31 with over 315k on the clock, and never had a problem I couldn't fix myself.

Depends a great deal on how the car has been treated in its lifetime.

[godspd]

I have a R33 series II 4 door auto with turbo back exhaust and k&N large intake.

Have come up against three(3) V8 commodores so far.

VX SS sedan (with exhaust I think, and manual) - head to head

VY V8 Wagon - See you later after second gear (above 60km/h)

VZ SS Ute (with exhaust and mannual) - head to head in first gear (up to 70km/h) but he pulled in front after he changed into second. Although this was in a hot day. Reckon would of been head to head if not faster given a cold day or at night.

Conclusion:

The V8 commodores IMO are not very fast and quite dissapointing actually given the fact that a "1996" skyline with roughly 200kw can keep up with a "2003-05" V8 with 255 kW.

Edited October 11, 2005 by godspd

[Josh]

i challenge you to find a "standar" R33 gts-t anyways.... one that has not been modified to any extent at all, that is completely and exactly the way it came from the factory...... i doubt u'd be able to do it.

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Hahah funny you mention that ... my mate actually just purchased a stock standard R33 gts-t... payed way too much for it too cus it came with f**k all.. and too many k's

[Cubes]

Here's the answer to the thread starters question.

[Kennedy]

Case Closed

I could watch that all day!!

[Josh]

I like that video a lot!! I sent it to the bogans at work

[AMS]

You got any more old Bathurst vids!!

[Cubes]

I've got the whole races 90-92.

Quality isn't the best but its ok.

[RANDY]

Hmm... how fast do they make it down the straight? Today's Bathurst cars reach 300km/hr.

Well, I own a 96 GTST, 2dr manual... and to be totally honest, when I "allegedly" raced my Skyline-owning mates, I don't recall losing to any R33 GTST. My mods matched theirs closely enough.

I had a VP Berlina V8 Series 2. PaceMaker extractors, 2.5" exhaust, heads ported, polished and shimmed.... umm... oh I had a remapped chip in my ECU put in. No idea what power I was making, but each mod added so little at a time that I didn't notice the overall difference.

soo.. it's a really open-ended question, and to be honest.. if it's an auto r33 n/a up against a vs auto v6, I still beleive the Commodore would be quicker. Those 3.8L motors have a fair bit of torque, and the Executive has no power options to weigh it down too much.

[Dingo]

^^ I thought I saw you in a skyline the other day, I wasnt 100% sure but it seems my eyes wern't seeing things after all.

August 1991

The entry list for Bathurst is released – there is a full field of 57 entries without resorting to padding out the entry list with the Group E production cars. There is a media and test day at Bathurst – some of the leading teams appear including the Gibson team. Jim cleans up the test day with the fastest lap (2:14.95s) and reaching 299kph on Conrod Straight. Win Percy almost matches with 297kph in his Commodore.

Taken from

http://www.overflow.250x.com/Obakemono%20Downunder.html

Edited October 11, 2005 by Dingo

[Cubes]

In 91+ they were a little slower due to being weighed down, didn't haul away from the commodores on the straights as much but had the suspension better sorted.

I think the difference with todays bathurst cars is they are no longer a touring car, i.e SUPERCAR!!

So its a different ball game.

Edited October 11, 2005 by Cubes

[Sathanas]

Heh, you come on a Skylines forum asking a serious question about a VT (the slowest of all the V6 Commodores) vs an Auto NA Skyline?

The Skyline would get chopped, simple. I've been in a manual one with really bad mags and a ridiculous sized cannon (which were the only two standout features of it, the acceleration certainatly wasnt) and i know that it would get hammered by anything this side of a VN. In fact except probably for the Starfire 4 Commodore (what were Holden thinking?) no commodore should lose to a NA Auto Skyline.

And also to you people out there commenting on cost vs performance...... A Commodore is a family car. The V8 is there for people who dont want a bog stock V6. They are not, nor will they ever be, designed to be a sports car, hence why your GTST's will beat them, with the exception of most of the HSV's. They were built to be fast, sporty cars with great handling.....

[Modena]

Like some have said: VTs v6 commodores are one of the slowest newish commodores today. A V6 VN, VP, VR and VS are quicker than a V6 VT... VX actually too.

Skylines are famous for turbos, commodores are famous for quick cheap family cars. NA Skyline is just that... "no acceleration" A V6 commodore will drill an NA Skyline. End of an argument.

[Forged]

Hi skyline drivers, my first post here, have to say this is the best skyline forum anywhere!

regards to commodores, well, have owned one( VTII GTS300) its powerful, v8 engine sounds great too, but the t56 gearbox is too outdated, slow to change gears, the whole driving experience is no comparison to my new skyline!

[Sathanas]

Hi skyline drivers, my first post here, have to say this is the best skyline forum anywhere!

regards to commodores, well, have owned one( VTII GTS300) its powerful, v8 engine sounds great too, but the t56 gearbox is too outdated, slow to change gears, the whole driving experience is no comparison to my new skyline!

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What Skyline do you own? And to all those ex Commodore owners saying "i blew 7 diffs and 4 gearboxes in my first month of owning one" seriously what do you do to these family cars that destroys them so quickly? I give my VP an absolute hammering most of the time, it still goes hard and the only thing that has gone wrong was the clutch (after 230,000 k). No blown head gaskets, diffs falling out, gearboxes exploding into the cabin or whatever catastrophic accidents that seem to happen to all of you....

I'm confident in its mechanical shape enough that i'm selling it to a best mate who lives about 8 ks from me. Next car will hopefully be a Mark IV Supra, you can pick them up for around the 16k mark if you know where to look. Failing that, yes probably something like a R32 GTR or something. Or a VS SS, but that wont be left stock for too long. They arent all that exciting performance wise, I mean my wagon can usually beat them......nuff said. But the V8 has so much more potential then the V6