skyline vs commodore = who would win?

[**JaR**]

i think these arent ruled out. only the 1990-1993 r32s are

keeping in mind that he lives in QLD mate, only NSW has those laws for p platers.

[WazR32GTSt]

Warren you need to relax

I only 'ever' type something if I am confident in what i am saying, the problem with all these kind of threads is people like yourself (and ARKON) compare modified Skylines with Standard competitors making any comparison totally irrelevant, liner32 in his first post said the R33 has an exhaust otherwise stock...why then assume its modified and say it'll beat a V6 or V8 VT Commodore..?

Arkon from your sig I can see your car is hardly standard, hence i'm sure it would beat a TJ Magna, my 'standard' Magna ran a 15.8, a 'standard' R33 GTsT would be no quicker

thing is, mate, i am comparing what i consider an 'average' car for what is out there on the roads

if you looked for the 'average' commodore, you would find that they are mostly COMPLTELY stock. sure there are the odd one with exhaust etc. but there are so many compltely stock ones, that this makes them the average

if you looked for the 'average' R33, you would find that they are mostly with an exhaust and air filter. sure there are heavily modified ones but there are almost no compeltely stock cars.

so, the only meaningful comparison would be comparing the average car out there on the road

if you read my first post, then you will see that i agree that the V8 commo will beat an NA R33. hell, even a V6 commo would probably beat the NA R33

but if it were a GTS25T (read: R33 turbo) then that's a different story... don't believe me? go drive one

[liner32]

would a 32 gts-t beat it then?

[WazR32GTSt]

'98 supra wouldnt be to shabby

agreed

best performance import NA is probably the NA mark4 supra

an R33GTS might be slower than a commonwhore, but it still handels like a skyline, and has everything else almost the same as its bigger brothers

[WazR32GTSt]

would a 32 gts-t beat it then?

yes, i can confirm that

but my car isn't completely stock so that changes the equation a bit

[PSI_GTSII]

Misprint?

No....just pick up any copy of Wheels or Motor magazine, there figures are roughly the same

There was a Standard Manual VRX TJ Magna running 15.4's, most of the other 3.5 TJs were running between 15.8 and 16.2 (AussieMagna.com Dragday) infact the Motoplexs own Demonstration / Celebrity BA Auto Falcon sedans run 15.8's....its hardly fast these days mate

15.8? Do you even know what a standard GTST runs?

Yep...about the same

[33SOM]

No....just pick up any copy of Wheels or Motor magazine, there figures are roughly the same

There was a Standard Manual VRX TJ Magna running 15.4's, most of the other 3.5 TJs were running between 15.8 and 16.2 (AussieMagna.com Dragday) infact the Motoplexs own Demonstration / Celebrity BA Auto Falcon sedans run 15.8's....its hardly fast these days mate

Yep...about the same

My old 33 ran a 13.9 @99mph with nothing more than an exhaust and dodgy frontmount? no ecu. no boost.

[**JaR**]

but if it were a GTS25T (read: R33 turbo) then that's a different story... don't believe me? go drive one

exactly, ive driven both, my car being a 33 gts-t, mums car being a vt commo.... the commo handles like shit coz its a bigger car, it still doesnt lack power but for a naturally aspirated family car, obviously the gts-t beats it coz the gts-t is a sports car with a turbo.

as for the n/a supra.... if i wasnt skyline mad then it woulda been my second choice of import for a car, they look sexy and have power as well.

[PSI_GTSII]

Warren, I'm glad to to you editted the bit out about me mouthing off after not having driven a Skyline

[WazR32GTSt]

Warren, I'm glad to to you editted the bit out about me mouthing off after not having driven a Skyline

yeah i checked your profile rather than just assuming you only had a magna

[PSI_GTSII]

My old 33 ran a 13.9 @99mph with nothing more than an exhaust and dodgy frontmount? no ecu. no boost

Exhaust and Front mount have worked well for you then well done

[32vspecII]

Warren you need to relax

I only 'ever' type something if I am confident in what i am saying, the problem with all these kind of threads is people like yourself (and ARKON) compare modified Skylines with Standard competitors making any comparison totally irrelevant, liner32 in his first post said the R33 has an exhaust otherwise stock...why then assume its modified and say it'll beat a V6 or V8 VT Commodore..?

Arkon from your sig I can see your car is hardly standard, hence i'm sure it would beat a TJ Magna, my 'standard' Magna ran a 15.8, a 'standard' R33 GTsT would be no quicker

I didnt say my magna wouldnt beat my gtst , i said it wouldnt beat anything ! I bought my gtst stock auto and it was still much quicker than the magna . you ran what 15.3 ? stock gtst should run high 14s .

no offence , the magnas a nice car , great family mover for the wife but to say its going to beat a 2.5l turbo sports car is a bit bizarre .

and for the record I dont think the auto gts will beat a manual vt v6 , even with an exhaust . NA cubes count and the slush box is just the nail in the coffin

[liner32]

so tossing up between say a 94? model supra and a 1990 gtst r32?

[**JaR**]

My old 33 ran a 13.9 @99mph with nothing more than an exhaust and dodgy frontmount? no ecu. no boost.

serious??? thats not bad at all, i always thought that gts-t's were supposed to run high 14's "stock", keep in mind like i said before...... it'd be hard to find this out as i challenge sumone to get a completely stock R33gts-t no mods at all completely factory issue and prove me wrong/right. coz all of the gts-t's ive seen have been modified to an extent, a simple exhaust is a mod therefore it isnt stock anymore even if it is only an exhaust.

[33SOM]

so tossing up between say a 94? model supra and a 1990 gtst r32?

Are you going to ever modify it?

If not id say go the supra... I dont know why????

[WazR32GTSt]

so tossing up between say a 94? model supra and a 1990 gtst r32?

what can you afford? you're only 17 and we don't want you killing yourself..

[Sarumatix]

what the hell is your objectives mate? Fastest car per $$?? I got my 4 door GTR for 16,000 and I can assure you that there aren't too many commodores that beat me. GTS-t's are like 9000 (imported of course) and supras are what? 24,000? R32 GTRs are roughly 20,000. Equally commodores vary in price and performance a lot... I would strongly recommend you just settle for the car that is best suited to you, and don't stress too much about trying to beat your mate, such wars usually end in tears.

[**JaR**]

yeah and dont think about insurance being cheaper for different types of cars either, insurance at 17 is always expensive, any age under 25 insurance is always expensive, a mate of mine drives a ford festiva, cost her $4,000 in comprehensive insurance coz shes only 19...... so you see, doesnt matter what car your in at this age, insurance is always a bitch.

[WazR32GTSt]

what the hell is your objectives mate? Fastest car per $$?? I got my 4 door GTR for 16,000 and I can assure you that there aren't too many commodores that beat me. GTS-t's are like 9000 (imported of course) and supras are what? 24,000? R32 GTRs are roughly 20,000. Equally commodores vary in price and performance a lot... I would strongly recommend you just settle for the car that is best suited to you, and don't stress too much about trying to beat your mate, such wars usually end in tears.

4-door GTS4 with an rb26? :whackit:

[krzysiu]

Waz, you shouldnt be talking about beating a stock VT, thats a given. Try beat a Gen3, then that will give you trouble