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dezz Grand Master

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can i just get this straight....

if you get an engineers certificate for the mods on your car, even if you have a pod, FMIC, gauges etc, if you get them engineered, a cop can pull you over thinking he can defect you, but you show the certificate and you're sweet?

can this work for a car that is illegally low? if its engineered is it ok?

if so, $3-$600 is not a lot to spend when you're buying the knowledge that a cop cannot defect you!

raz0r$harP.UK Grand Master

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madwob: not exactly. Up to the police officer's discretion but they can still defect you if you have an engineering certificate. Just makes it easier to clear if they do.

However, if you have something like a car that is too low, blow the legal limits, an engineering certificate won't help you.

dezz Grand Master

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madwob: not exactly. Up to the police officer's discretion but they can still defect you if you have an engineering certificate. Just makes it easier to clear if they do.

However, if you have something like a car that is too low, blow the legal limits, an engineering certificate won't help you.

yeah thats what i meant, they'd still canary you if they wanted, but you can just get it cleared the next day at vic roads or whatever...

as for the being to low, i thought they can give u a cert. for stuff like having rims bigger than what the law says u can have over factory, if they dont see them as dangerous or anything

someonestolecc Grand Master

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Is the engineer rta certified?

Can you pass on the details of who you got it done through.

And did you have any other mods on the car to be certified.Like suspension,bov etc.

The engineer was RTA certified and my certificate is certified, on file with the RTA and a condition of my rego.

Last I heard he's retired so unfortunately not.

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To whomever it was that PM'd me ( sorry, I deleted your PM and I have the memory of a goldfish :( ) here's the new tyre placard I was talking about ( and the original one ). Some people who have had their car engineered did not get one of these so I'm not sure if you should have got one or not.

To everyone else, sorry for digging up an old post ;)

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You'll need to source an Automotive Engineer ( check links from RTA website ). If you can't find any, let me know and I'll see if I can dig up some QLD names for you.

The wheels must be in good condition ( overall ) and MUST have all the relative info either stamped, forged into or printed on a sticker and stuck onto the rim detailing size, "JJ" standard ( safety rim ) and some other stuff. Many cheap wheels that people buy do not have this info and can not be engineered.

They will also check the fitment to your car making sure that the center of the wheels is supporting the load and not just the wheels nuts/studs. They will also make sure that the offset is not excessive, and will not cause premature bearing failure.

frankxinyu Mentor

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You'll need to source an Automotive Engineer ( check links from RTA website ). If you can't find any, let me know and I'll see if I can dig up some QLD names for you.

The wheels must be in good condition ( overall ) and MUST have all the relative info either stamped, forged into or printed on a sticker and stuck onto the rim detailing size, "JJ" standard ( safety rim ) and some other stuff. Many cheap wheels that people buy do not have this info and can not be engineered.

They will also check the fitment to your car making sure that the center of the wheels is supporting the load and not just the wheels nuts/studs. They will also make sure that the offset is not excessive, and will not cause premature bearing failure.

thanx for the info mate. so simplely if i buy those second hand wheels from japan(say those Nismo LM GT4?), is it possible to engineer them as i cant get a sticker or anyting for them. cheers :)

madbung Grand Master

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What state are you guys in? down here (vic) you certainly don't need an engineer cert for aftermarket parts..so long as your new parts don't make the vehicle unroadworthy or alter emissions and are within the accepted modifications guidelines np's.

ie: car still has 100mm clearance, or db levels/emissions aren't outside the legal limits it's still a roadworthy vehicle, tyres aren't wider than the guards, offset and track are still to spec ..ect ..ect.

All parts sold from retail outlets for street use should have conformed to all the necessary adr, manufacturing and government regulations or they wouldn't be allowed to retail them in the first place.

If my insurance company took this stance with me they'd be on the losing end of a claim and lawsuit.

It sounds to me like some officious little insurance man has made his own interpretation of a clause or sub clause.

If your car is of a roadworthy condition and you've got all your legal mods listed on your policy they'd be laughed out of court I'd imagine.

As if mildly modded cars that have bolt on (within roadworthy spec) modifications need to be "engineered"

have a read of the relevant adr's, roadworthy and modifications requirements for your state and save yourselves some $$$

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What state are you guys in? down here (vic) you certainly don't need an engineer cert for aftermarket parts..so long as your new parts don't  make the vehicle unroadworthy or alter emissions and are within the accepted modifications guidelines np's.

ie: car still has 100mm clearance, or db levels/emissions aren't outside the legal limits it's still a roadworthy vehicle, tyres aren't wider than the guards, offset and track are still to spec ..ect ..ect.

All parts sold from retail outlets for street use should have conformed to all the necessary adr, manufacturing and government regulations or they wouldn't be allowed to retail them in the first place.

If my insurance company took this stance with me they'd be on the losing end of a claim and lawsuit.

It sounds to me like some officious little insurance man has made his own interpretation of a clause or sub clause.

If your car is of a roadworthy condition and you've got all your legal mods listed on your policy they'd be laughed out of court I'd imagine.

As if mildly modded cars that have bolt on (within roadworthy spec) modifications need to be "engineered"

have a read of the relevant adr's, roadworthy and modifications requirements for your state and save yourselves some $$$

thats exactly what i thought. i live in QLD but i never had any problems with my previous car which had some bold on mods.

the only thing worries me is the f**ken insurance. my insurance company wont let me have more than three pods atm and im working on changing to Justcars as soon as i can afford to pay the one off premium.

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I'm in NSW and there are a certain amount of modifications you can make to your car without any requirement for engineering but once you step outside those restictions an engineer must approve those mods. An example is with wheels. In NSW you are allowed a certain amount of offset and width / diameter change ( can't remember the exact figures ) but once you've exceeded those limits, engineering approval is required.

A few of the modifications I have are race specific ( example being 9L High Energy Circut Racing Engine Sump ) and as such are not readily approved for road use. These mods must be engineer certified to be legal for road use.

frankxy, you should probably check your local QLD laws to clarify what requirement's are applicable to you. I'm only telling you info relative to my situation. Sorry for any misunderstanding :)

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I'm in NSW and there are a certain amount of modifications you can make to your car without any requirement for engineering but once you step outside those restictions an engineer must approve those mods. An example is with wheels. In NSW you are allowed a certain amount of offset and width / diameter change ( can't remember the exact figures ) but once you've exceeded those limits, engineering approval is required.

A few of the modifications I have are race specific ( example being 9L High Energy Circut Racing Engine Sump ) and as such are not readily approved for road use. These mods must be engineer certified to be legal for road use.

frankxy, you should probably check your local QLD laws to clarify what requirement's are applicable to you. I'm only telling you info relative to my situation. Sorry for any misunderstanding :(

no,no, mate, i know u r right. im just not very good with the law and stuff and i dont wanna troubles all the time, neither from the cops nor the insurance when i have an accident or something. thanx for the info. im just gonna ring them up and ask where i can locate the rules about mods on the cars(im pretty sure its on the website as well since someone posted a link b4). :D

thanx for the info.

predator Grand Master

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You will need to speak to a compliance engineer regarding your specific modifications and what is and isn't allowed to get the blue plate. These are not your regular 'mod' type engineers, and I think there are only a couple in QLD.

Mine was pretty much stock, so was fairly simple, but as above, nobody is going to be able to give you a definitive answer as to what is, and what isn't allowed other than the guy above. As he is the one who ultimately gives you the plate ;) Then you just get a RWC and it can be registered like any other vehicle... again at this step the Roadworthy guy will have to agree on the mods and whether he thinks they are roadworthy.

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