Curious about a R32 Gtst

[adzi_metallica]

Hey guys...

I currently own an eb falcon I6, and was looking into purchasing a r32 gtst (seeing as i cant afford a xr6turbo ba), and was reading through some posts on here and was amazed at you guys considering a gt35/40 turbo big? The stock ba xr6t runs this (please i am not mocking im jus interested), the falcon runs a 4 litre i know but an rb30 is alot more high tech then the falcon (even older falcons like mine are running lot bigger turbos with full boost at 3000ish), there shouldnt be such a problem with spooling times on these engines.... Anyways how much should i be looking at spending on a good condition r32 gtst. Im looking for mid 12second quater pass while normal street drivability, how much in mods (i want a really reliable car too) should i be looking at and more important WHAT mods would i be looking at id really like to show my mate (in the turbo falcon) how its done again.....Thanks guys

[foznice]

well a good condition a r32gtst can be picked up locally for as little as 12-14k (for a stocker). I don't have a very good idea on how much it would cost to get a stocker running 12secs..

[adzi_metallica]

Comon guys somebody gotta know how much it'd cost to get a r32 gtst into the 12s and be reliable...

[Jago]

  adzi_metallica said:

Comon guys somebody gotta know how much it'd cost to get a r32 gtst into the 12s and be reliable...

noone can give you an exact price, as prices vary everywhere you go, and vary depending on the condition of your vehicle and its weak points and strengths. It also depends on how you chose to go about your tuning and modification.

[sproosy]

  adzi_metallica said:

Comon guys somebody gotta know how much it'd cost to get a r32 gtst into the 12s and be reliable...

Hi 12's or lows 12's?

If you want low to mid 12's youd be up for at least 5 -10 grand on mods i think maybe more. My opinion, get rid of the RB20 and out in an RB30/25 hybrid. I think it would work out cheaper than working the tits off the RB20, your decision. There is a thread on how to do this (R33 RB30 Conversion), i am currently sourcing parts for mine now.

[WazR32GTSt]

  adzi_metallica said:

Comon guys somebody gotta know how much it'd cost to get a r32 gtst into the 12s and be reliable...

if times are your only consideration, buy a pre-modded R32GTSt and go from there

otherwise the cost won't be worth it

the strengths of the R32 aren't its quartermile times. take one for a drive through some corners, and give the brakes some workout... compared to your falcon (and the BA) and you will be amazed at the braking and handling...

oh, and the difference between a 2L engine and a 4L engine is that its double the size... that's double hte exhaust gas to spool up a turbo. Thus you can expect that a fair sized turbo on a 4L will be large on a 2L.

Its like getting a truck turbo off an 8L engine and bolting it to a BA XR6T... it will be laggy as a mofo. why? its half the capacity...

Warren.

[predator]

Didn't you ask this last week?

[wheels_24]

picked my GTS-T up for $13,500 it already had exhuast and a front mount. Have recently spent about $6500 on mods such as new turbo, injectors, waste gate and 3D wolf and tuning went from 105rwkw to 210rwkw that is about as far as i can go with it till i do internals

[Roy]

Or buy my car for 22K:) Instant 12s:)

Its prtty easy to get 12s out of a GTST, but its never cheap. The following prices are isntalled prices:

- Intercooler , $1500

- Full exhaust, $1500

- Clutch and flywheel $1200

- GTR injectors, $300

- Pfc and tuning $2000

- Filter and fuel pump $500

- Rear bushes and alignment $200

- Turbo setup. $4,500

- Tyres $800

All bolted to a std Rb20 should see you supporting between 220-250rwkws and doing guaranteed 12.9s and lower. If i can do a 12.9 with a high 2.2, almost 2.3 60ft then a 12.3 is easily on the cards, especially since the car can run 115mph.

Of course if you can pick up a car with the exhaust, intercooler and susp already then you save yourself a nucket of money. And of course you can get the above gear cheaper, and install yourself to almost half the cost, but thhe above prices are more the norm for good gear

[browny]

This is the fastest R32 gtst that I could see the the SAU timeslip database, and this only just cracks a 12:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/me...ails&userid=462

And here it is for sale:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...ead.php?t=68602

IMO if you want to run that time and you want a reliable driver, then this is the sort of thing i'd be looking for. You could spend a lot more than the $20k that Roy is asking getting to this point.

EDIT: And Roy beat me to it

[Roy]

LOL..i often wondered that drag info went to, now i know.

The 60ft time wasnt as bad as i thought. The car can do consistant 13.2s all day with walking the car off the line, grabbing 2nd then getting stuck into it. Usually a 2.4 60ft:(

It shows that the 12.9 was the quickest because that was my best 60ft time, but it wasnt my best mph.

Having listened to ppls words of caution and reservations about gearboxes...im now confident that they are fine at this power level. R31_Nismoid gave a 20 box a pasting with more power then me behind an RB25 for a good while, mine is still fine. Cubes is running one behind his RB30 making 170rwkws, but typically its the torque that hurts them so if its happy behind the 3.0L:)

So before i part with the car im going to give it another go at the drags...i cant even remember if i was running 15 or 18psi...either way if i leave the line with 5,000rpm with the new RE55S and dont granny 2nd gear, then i will be amazed if i dont easily improve on the 12.9

[predator]

well you should have one of the fastest rb20det powered r32 around here.. time to prove it

[Roy]

  predator said:

... time to prove it

LOL...this is a discussion forum..so i dont have to prove anything :Pimp2:

... i dont care about having the fastest car...i list all the dramas and info not to be making excuses, but to give others an idea of how their car would be quicker if they addressed some of the shortcomings of my car... lol does that make sense?

It will be up to the next owner to enjoy the car..if he/she cars about proving the car still has a fair bit in it then cool...otherwise it is what it is.

lol i wanna open an R32 shop, like R31 House in Japan. Once you get your head around the R32 GTST they are pretty quick cars if you know where to spend the money:)

[yogi000]

yo roy

i'll be down at the SAU NSW drag day 31st July to see what time the r32 gtst can with a 2530 and support gear. Not making as much power as you Roy but hoping for a flat 13.....maybe abit optimistic.

Will good to compare numbers with your setup.

Cheers

[predator]

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... i dont care about having the fastest car...i list all the dramas and info not to be making excuses, but to give others an idea of how their car would be quicker if they addressed some of the shortcomings of my car... lol does that make sense?

hehe, wasn't that serious - just curious myself as to what is possible. Somebody here should be able to get a mid-12 from a stock internal RB20.. afterall buzz-box powered SR20 and CA18 powered dattos are getting mid to high 11's... and they weigh about 400-500kg lighter

  Quote

lol i wanna open an R32 shop, like R31 House in Japan. Once you get your head around the R32 GTST they are pretty quick cars if you know where to spend the money

:uh-huh:

[CerealKiller]

a 12 second R32 GTS-t wouldn't exactly street "driveable" off boost...the turbo lag would suck hard...RB25/26/30 transplant would be the most cost effective mod IMO.

[Roy]

  CerealKiller said:

a 12 second R32 GTS-t wouldn't exactly street "driveable" off boost...the turbo lag would suck hard...RB25/26/30 transplant would be the most cost effective mod IMO.

LOL...i know im not going to convince you otherwise, but you would be amazed just how driveable they are...a few SAU guys and gals have driven my car when im under the weather and none of them have seemed to mind.

Sure its not as massivley responsive but...i dont recall who in NSW has driven it, perhaps beer_baron drove it???? Doughboy has, its very streetable off boost and has very good manners on the street!

Its no RB25 with 2530 but there is no way you can say its not streetable...that statement is way off the mark.

You would be surprised. R32_Bigboy didnt seem to mind too much putting around town in it and he is an RB30 groupie:)...i recall him being surprised how it drove...and he could be heard screaming "GATE IT" like a cast member of One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest whislt he terrorised a small country town:)

So im a scratched record, if you want big torque and want to put around under 3,000rpm then go the RB30, but dont go around saying RB20s arent streetable...that is just an old wives tail...hell give me $2200 and i can show you an 11second RB20 that is streetable off boost:)

[The Mafia]

My mate has a good one here, with the leather interior, hi flo turbo, producing 220rwkw for $13,000. He's a mechanic, so its been well looked after.

[psybic]

Go the extra yards and get a GTR. How is stock unreliable and not street driveable... and you'll crack 12's all day long

Bit more to pay up front, but you get the best of all worlds.

[Rolls]

  adzi_metallica said:

the falcon runs a 4 litre i know but an rb30 is alot more high tech then the falcon

I think you are mistaken thinking the R32 has a 3litre rb30e it infact has a 2 Litre Rb20det which indeed does make it need a smaller exhaust wheel hence smaller turbo.