r34 25gt four

[mk_drums]

what do people think of the idea of getting a r34 25gt four and then either dropping in a neo turbo or just adding a turbo to the existing engine

a poor mans gtr perhaps?

[Pva_Glue]

yeah it can be done if you have Money...

I tell you this TOPIC came up a lot of time, maybe not with R34 but with R33 and R33.

anything is possible...

minds you I have driven R34 GT4, they are solid car even without Turbo.

[mk_drums]

sounds promising hey

if the topic has been done to death sorry about that i am only a new man to the skyline forums :uh-huh:

[Warpspeed]

Well, a lot has been said on other threads, but time marches on, and things change.

The price of genuine GTRs is still falling. At one time it was a great way to build a poor man's GTR with considerable cash savings, but with a lot of hard work. These days if you buy a GTS-4 and a full GTR front cut, for the cost you could damned near buy the real thing.

The problem comes when you need to sell the car. Even genuine GTRs can be hard to sell, a home made GTR may be impossible to sell. It could be a lot of work, and in the end money down the drain. Five years ago maybe, but not today.

[mk_drums]

true,

but if i was to do it i wouldnt be looking to make a fake gtr

i would be aiming more for a 25gtt with the tractability of a 4wd if ya get what i mean.

i wouldnt be trying to dress it up as something it aint

so in very basic terms i would be getting a 25gt four, banging on a turbo,a few subtle body mods, maybe some gtr seats or a brake upgrade and of ya go.

none of these gtr badges or any of that kind of shit

[Simbera]

This idea's probably been done to death too, but what about a 4-door GT-R (start with R34 4 door GT-4, RB26 transplant and so on)

It would probably not have great resale value, but it would be fairly unique (Autech only did the R33 in 4 door GT-R, right?)

[Warpspeed]

The trouble is that once you start down the path of that kind of modification it just goes on and on. It becomes a total money pit without end.

I still think the best way is to get either the real thing and restore it to better condition (maybe minus it's GTR badges). Otherwise you will be doing clutch upgrades, brake upgrades, suspension upgrades, and all the rest.

Another thing is the law. If you have a real factory standard GTR they cannot touch you. But if it built up from all sorts of non standard parts, it could become a very big issue if some noxious little Hitler decides to run you over the high jump.

[mk_drums]

ahh well all valid points but i will probably still end up doing it anyway :Pimp2:

[krush]

just something to think about, a lot of people end up upgrading their suspension, clutch, and maybe gearbox (depends what you got i guess) over the life of owning their cat anyhow, so maybe upgrading it all just to fit the big engine is more so spending it all at once rather then over a year or so?

shaun.

[mk_drums]

thats right it is just getting all that kind of stuff at once vs. over the course of ownership

[Warpspeed]

Exactly,

Buying all the parts individually will always cost far more, and it is all the little things that make the difference between a neat factory looking job, and something that looks homemade. The correct moulded hoses, factory brackets, and bolts make a very big difference.

If you get a GTR front cut, you get absolutely everything, and afterwards, you can sell the original parts, it will turn out costing even less. The only real down side is storing the front cut, because it absolutely must be under cover.

I have half a spare car here, and yesterday saved myself a few dollars and a trip, by scrounging a replacement globe. Small thing, but it all adds up.

[666DAN]

Get the 25GT four, find a stagea with NEO driveline, place in a hot oven for 15 minutes and stir.

Would be a good combo, basically everything would swap over with minimum of hassle

[GTRgeoff]

Sounds like fun, as long as you can afford to spend the money for fun.

A few points to note:

A GTR33 can cost as little as $30K. I won't discuss the looks issue, that's personal preference.

The GTR is not as 'nice' to drive in traffic due to the lower compression engine as an RB25det equipped car will be.

The engineer will require the brakes are up to thejob so at least R33gtst/R34Gtt brakes. (probably already has them right Dan?)

Not so easy to 'just' turbo (right Dan?)

[mk_drums]

666 dan,

why a stagea cut what advantages is there using it vs. a gtt

is it just because they are 4wd aswell?

[predator]

4WD engine into 4WD chasis...

the sumps require modifications to switch between 2wd and 4WD, etc.

also.. stag halfcut may also be cheaper to less demand

[mk_drums]

you could just get whatever rb25det and swap some parts over though too couldnt you ie keep the original sump and so forth

also what about getting an engine only then buying a seperate piggyback computer to run fuel etc. beside the standard ecu. then you will have a reprogramable ecu right from the start aswell

[666DAN]

666 dan,

why a stagea cut what advantages is there using it vs. a gtt

is it just because they are 4wd aswell?

Yes the fact it's 4WD...plus the newer NEO version would wire in with no hassle. Putting R33 gear into an R34 is full of perils and lots and lots and lots of rewiring as it uses a different generation of ECU

The engineer will require the brakes are up to thejob so at least R33gtst/R34Gtt brakes. (probably already has them right Dan?)

You'll pass OK on the brakes fitted...they're not too shabby as is, but better brakes are still worth putting on.

Not so easy to 'just' turbo (right Dan?)

In a word....no! Don't do it unless you're preapred for some upsets, an angry girlfriend, and more upsets...unless you really enjoy a challenenge go for it

[mk_drums]

ahh im up for it when funds permit after my baby arrives

[666DAN]

Well if you do the bolt-on Ill give you the list of things you have to do

[mk_drums]

alright thanks 666dan

hit me with a list