Stagea Brakes

[Sydneykid]

I thought it was worthwhile consolidating all the Stagea brake stuff in one place.

Series 1

Front Pads - Bendix Premium 1398BP

The generic Bendix code is 1398, the last 2 digits are the pad type (BP = Bendix Premium).

There is an alternative being 1250, this pad is 14 mm thick and the 1398 is 15 mm thick. It seems 1398's are hard to get at times, so 1250 is a good alternative. I found a set of Lucas Premium pads in the 1250 part number. They are the TRW manufactured, European spec material, so they should be OK.

Front Disc Rotors - DBA 4909

These are the same as the S14 200SX

DBA have these in stock currently

Rear Pads - Bendix Advance 1144 or Ferodo XL 1144XL

As for the front, the generic Bendix code is 1144 the last 2 are the pad type.

Rear Disc Rotors - I am going to try DBA 4908 (R32GTR), modified by maching down the OD by 30mm, all of the other dimensions are the same. This is a rather drastic reduction, I will have to check them for cracking for a few weeks before I sign off on their suitability.

DBA has these rotors in stock currently.

Series 2

Front pads - Hitachi HP63H FF

The guys with S2's haven't found a Bendix equivalent yet, but I am sure they will post it up as soon as they do.

**edit by mods** this information is not correct as the offset is wrong for S2 stagea

Front Disc Rotors - DBA 4963 (R33 GTST) modified by machining down the OD by 6mm, all of the other dimensions are the same. Unlike the Series 1, this is very minor machining, I would not expect any problems with this, we do it all the time on the race car rotors.

DBA have these in stock currently

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Rear Pads - The generic Bendix code is 1399

Rear Disc Rotors - DBA 4908 (R32GTR), modified by maching down the OD by 5mm, all of the other dimensions are the same. Unlike the Series 1, this is very minor machining, I would not expect any problems with this, we do it all the time on the race car rotors.

DBA has these rotors in stock currently.

I will post up some pictures of the front rotors and the pad install as I proceed through it this weekend.

Edited January 29, 2009 by Duncan

[ICE12]

SK are the DBA4909SL front rotor a definate swap for our stagea s1 as i can get the rotors for about $195.00 each (not retail price) from repco so I need to know as I will order them if they are a direct swap with no modification needed.

Cheers ICE

[Sydneykid]

SK are the DBA4909SL front rotor a definate swap for our stagea s1 as i can get the rotors for about $195.00 each (not retail price) from repco so I need to know as I will order them if they are a direct swap with no modification needed.

Cheers ICE

That's what I have for ours, but I haven't fitted them yet. I am waiting on pads, they should be here Monday. I will post it up and confirm that they fit only when I have actually fitted them.

PS; be careful DBA4909SL is left and DBA4909SR is right.

[Lone]

Beautiful work there!

[xRHETTx]

If anyone cares, DBA4909 are also be used on R32 GTSt. So it then follows that S1 stagea front discs are the same as R32 gtst discs. That might help if you are looking for cheap secondhand replacement discs.

[Sydneykid]

Good news, DBA have made a batch of 4908, rear rotors. I will be picking them up tomorrow. I will machine them up next week and fit them the weekend after. Then post up some pictures.

PS; I have updated the first page with the latest details as I go.

[emanuelt]

When upgrading the rotors can you use the original calipers? If wanting to upgrade to new calipers any info?

SK did you by the DBA 4909 slotted or cross drilled from the 4000 series? Any pics installed?

Sorry just seen the photo of part number, SL SR so you got the slotted ones.

[AlexCim]

Anyone got some rough prices for the general public?

Just want to know how much i should save up for new rotors and pads all around.

[xRHETTx]

At the start of the year i bought DBA4909SR and SL rotors for $223 each inc GST. That was the best price i could get at the time, from ABS brakes.

[Sydneykid]

1. When upgrading the rotors can you use the original calipers?

2. If wanting to  pgrade to new calipers any info? 

3. SK did you by the DBA 4909  slotted or cross drilled from the 4000 series?

4.  Any pics installed?

Sorry just seen the photo of part number, SL SR so you got the slotted ones.

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Response to your questions follow;

1. Yes

2. Any R32/33/34 GTR callipers would fit, even Brembos

3. I never use cross drilled rotors, they always crack. (Yes, even Porsche ones)

4. No problem, once I have time to install them. Slight delay, no pads as yet.

cheers

[Sydneykid]

Picked up the rear pads today, boy are they ever small. I will post up a picture tonight

cheers

[PranK]

Top work SK, I have sourced some R32 GTR discs and R33 Gtst calipers for the front of mine, will take snaps once done.

[Sydneykid]

Top work SK, I have sourced some R32 GTR discs and R33 Gtst calipers for the front of mine, will take snaps once done.

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HELP HELP HELP HELP

I have tried everything I can think of to upload the brake pad and rear rotor pictures for this thread.

I can see my gallery

I can see the "upload" button when I am not logged in

But I can't upload because I am not logged in.

When I am logged in, I can't see the upload buttom

If I am doing something wrong please tell me. Or if I don't have permission to upload pictures anymore, then please tell me. If my gallery is full, then please tell me. This is very frustrating, and wastes a lot of time, time that I don't have to spare.

cheers

[ICE12]

Well SK I have gone from the info you have given and it is spot on for the fronts I have just fitted the 4909SL/SR and the 1398AD Bendex pads to my S1 Stagea. It took me about 45 minutes. One tip is that you need a bolt to help remove the disc from the hub and as I didn't have one lying around that fit I used a bolt front the front seat mounting which fitted perfectly. I will bed the brakes in before check for brake fade. Haven't thought about the rears as yet.

Cheers ICE

[PranK]

SK, Gallery is busted atm, will be fixing it over the weekend.

[Sydneykid]

The DBA 4000 series rotors come with temperature sensitive paint on the rotor edge. This is the DBA instruction sheet for what the temperature sensitive paint is going to tell you.

There are 3 colours (green, orange & red) and they change colour (white, yellow & white) at different temperatures. So I will be able to tell how hot the rotors have been. This will tell me what pads and what brake fluid to use.

I will post up some pictures of the temperature paint on the rotors after 2 weeks use and work through what it means to my future choices of pads and brake fluid.

cheers

Edited November 7, 2006 by Sydneykid

[emanuelt]

Sk, can you put the Rear Disc Rotors DBA 4908 on the S1 Stagea without modifying it? As you mentioned modifying yours for some reason? I would prefer bolt on with no mods to it.

[Sydneykid]

Sk, can you put the Rear Disc Rotors DBA 4908 on the S1 Stagea without modifying it? As you mentioned modifying yours for some reason? I would prefer bolt on with no mods to it.

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The 4908 rotor is too big in diameter, now that the gallery is working I will put up some pictures. There is no Stagea rear rotor available from DBA, in fact I can only find OEM Nissan rotors. So I have chosen a DBA 4000 series rotor that is exactly right in all but one dimension, OD. What I am going to do (when I am not flat out with race meetings, Philip Island this wekend), is to machine down the rotors to the same diameter as the Stagea rotors (10 minutes in the lathe).

Then I will test them for a few weeks, give them some stick, tow the race car around etc. If this harsh testing shows up no issues, I will report back to DBA. They may then choose to do the same within their production process, if so you will be able to buy Stagea rear rotors of the shelf from any DBA outlet.

If DBA choose not to do it (due to low demand) then I will organise a Group Buy and do it that way.

cheers

PS we do this sort of stuff with race car rotors all the time. In fact Tilton, Brembo and AP rotors come in size steps, and they expect you to machine them down to fit your application.

[Tangles]

we do this sort of stuff with race car rotors all the time.  In fact Tilton, Brembo and AP rotors come in size steps, and they expect you to machine them down to fit your application.

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Wow!

Thats some v.intresting information you've posted up SK.

Glad to hear that you're fully experienced with modifying the size of brake rotors.... Im actually mod'ing the Galfer Wave disc rotors on my Fireblade tonight (cant wait! - whoo hoo, I'll have some decent brakes again!), not a huge deal but still a custom job.

Cheers to you,

Brendan

[emanuelt]

I have just been pricing some rotors and pads to buy. Where is the cheapest place to get them, also the Bendix Premium 1398BP seem to be no longer available at most places?

I can get the pads for $121 and rotors range from $252 to $315 each for the same ones, DBA 4909 SR ans SL.

Can I get them cheaper?