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Silver-Arrowz Grand Master

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I don't think money has anything to do with Webber's performance. If he was chasing the dollars he would've taken the Toyota deal (Webber knocked it back so Ralf got the drive). They were offering him a significant amount which he knocked back.

The car has a lot to do with their performances. Both Toyota and Jordan run the same motors. But look where they're on the grid. Same with Ferrari and Sauber.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was backing off the second half of the race. Remember that the engine has to last 2 races. Once things have seattled down and drivers have gotten into a rythmn they usually tell drivers to back off the revs to perserve the engine. I think all teams would employ this stratagy. Webber and Hieldfeld are running aero parts too. Heidfeld rejected the new aero parts.

note: Webber's manager is Flavio Briatore. He also manages Alonso and Fisi.

ECR033 Mentor

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As said above, I really don't think money has much to do with it at all. Webber's only on approx $4m/year which is middle of the road relative to the rest of the F1 grid. I'm sure he would have been paid more to drive for Toyota and also possibly Renault, but he turned them down to drive for Williams as that was where he felt compelled to go.

The Williams is a dog. It's simple as that. In reality, Webber hasn't been outperformed by his teammate. Had luck gone his way, he would have finished on the podium in Malaysia (instead of Heidfeld inheriting his spot with Fisi took him out) and he would have also finished 2nd in Monaco (if Williams didn't bring him in before Heidfeld). If those things had happened, Webber would be ahead of his teammate on points and nobody was be questioning his ability. I'll be very surprised if he doesn't get on top of Heidfeld by the end of the season. In most circumstances, the cream always rises to the top...although I guess F1 is a cruel game and can sometimes bite you in the ar5e.

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note: Webber's manager is Flavio Briatore. He also manages Alonso and Fisi.

BTW, I don't think that Fisi is managed by Briatore anymore despite driving for Renault. I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that he left Briatore when he left Benetton the first time around.

<Mental note: Must find article, as I'm sure i've had this disagreement with someone on here before lol :( >

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dezz Grand Master

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there was a quote i saw once that was so true...cant remember it word for word, but it basically stated that at ferrari, the number 1 driver isn't decided by money, but by results, and MS has consistantly shown that he is the number 1 driver.

as for webber, the way the australian media talked him up was a joke. he had accomplished nothing in F1, and they were saying he was the next schumacher. what a joke.

the only good part of that, was that webber himself said "i haven't achieved ANYTHING".

glad it didnt get to his head, because to say he is the next MS, with what he has achieved (or not achieved) was an absolute disgrace!

another thing, why is his ass always burning? lol, i've been a massive F1 fan for ever, and he's the only driver i've heard complain about it, and on more than 1 occasion!

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Big Rizza Mentor

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Maybe Webber is too busy setting UK records for the quickest lap time in a Suzuki Liana?

Actually, that honour goes to former F1 champion Damon Hill... But Webber would have won if it was dry...

(Does anyone have any idea what I'm talking about?)

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