R33_Series2Lover Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I tried using the search option but I would get a error message everytime. Is it truth or urban legend that you cannot have a atmo blow of valve on a R33 skyline gts-t when the car is stock? Im asking because im hearing all these conflicting stories. I went to the autosalon and I saw a skyline that was stock engine wise all is had was a 3 inch turbo back exhaust and a hks ssq blow off valve, the owner wasnt there i would have loved to ask him how he did it without the car running funny or stalling. This is the kind of simple set up id love to have but ive been told awww you got to have a front mount,you would need to change your fuel pump. Are these just b.s statements. Or can i have my car running 100% fine with just a exhaust and a ssq bov ( i love the sound). I have a gfb stealth but when i had it installed the car kept stalling so i took it off. Can a skyline have a bov without the car running funny or stalling with just a exhaust or do you need to do other mods. Sorry im sure this has been covered but I cant find anything to help me here. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwells Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Aside from the legalities and possible issues with stalling, you can run an atmosphere venting BOV venting on the stock setup. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1503151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R33_Series2Lover Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 is there anyways bypassing the stalling or rough idle scenario? Or is it just a given?? I want a no problems set up which includes a hks ssq bov and a 3 inch turbo back for the extra power. Ive been told the hks has some special mechanism which prevents stalling or any other probs. In other words how can i get this setup to run problem free or is this just something I cant have but somehow others have achieved. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1503154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sproosy Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 This product should do the trick: http://www.nengun.com/catalogue/product/578 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1503168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 the owner wasnt there i would have loved to ask him how he did it without the car running funny or stalling. well seeing as though the owner wasnt around, how do you know it drove ok? Highly likely he had issues and probably didnt even realise. Just thinks its normal. I believe you can tune out most of it with an SAF-C The car expects a plumback to be there. If you remove it you must go about and spend money to make it think otherwise. BOV = wank factor anyhow. There is no performance NEED, only a owner want Do you really want to know you've taken your foot off the throttle? Or do the 15yr old chicks down your street get off on hearing em? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1503171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypeR33 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 You could get a bov with an adjustable valve spring like the blitz dual drive. I had 1 on my completely stock S15 before I switched to the R33. Had a heap of problems with it stalling as soon as you depressed the clutch pedal coming to lights etc. If you tighten the spring with the allen key provided, you could adjust the tension and it then fixed the problem of stalling. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1503187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaido_RR Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 I tried using the search option but I would get a error message everytime. Is it truth or urban legend that you cannot have a atmo blow of valve on a R33 skyline gts-t when the car is stock? Im asking because im hearing all these conflicting stories. I went to the autosalon and I saw a skyline that was stock engine wise all is had was a 3 inch turbo back exhaust and a hks ssq blow off valve, the owner wasnt there i would have loved to ask him how he did it without the car running funny or stalling. This is the kind of simple set up id love to have but ive been told awww you got to have a front mount,you would need to change your fuel pump. Are these just b.s statements. Or can i have my car running 100% fine with just a exhaust and a ssq bov ( i love the sound). I have a gfb stealth but when i had it installed the car kept stalling so i took it off. Can a skyline have a bov without the car running funny or stalling with just a exhaust or do you need to do other mods. Sorry im sure this has been covered but I cant find anything to help me here. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> its Urban legend (in my case anyway), im running HKS SSQV, exhuast and air filter and alittle bit of boost, my idle is sweet as and the car never stalls on it self, not one problem Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1503723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R33_Series2Lover Posted August 6, 2005 Author Share Posted August 6, 2005 well seeing as though the owner wasnt around, how do you know it drove ok?Highly likely he had issues and probably didnt even realise. Just thinks its normal. I believe you can tune out most of it with an SAF-C The car expects a plumback to be there. If you remove it you must go about and spend money to make it think otherwise. BOV = wank factor anyhow. There is no performance NEED, only a owner want Do you really want to know you've taken your foot off the throttle? Or do the 15yr old chicks down your street get off on hearing em? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nah man im not doing this to impress little girls. Im doing it because I like the sound of a BOV with an exhaust. Wank factor?? So many people have em just let them be I guess. I just want a simple 3 inch system with a BOV. Where's the crime? at the moment I have a brand new GFB stealth which i had installed but damn thing made my car stall. I can adjust the springs or whatever there called but not to sure how to do it. So i figured id by a HKs ssq as ive heard some peeps with it without a prob. Can it be done? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1503969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_J Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 I am fairly new to the world of turbos... but my understanding is that unless you blank up the recirc pipe the car will stall (with an atmo BOV of course) heaps of ppl have atmo bovs... and they run fine. u definitely dont need engine management to run an atmo bov the only other prob u may have would relate to a lack of spring tension sealing the bov at idle. but u can manually tighten that up. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1504467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl33ek Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Agreed, its an urban legend. You can have a completely stock R33 and still run an atmo BOV. I have a fairly stock car except a bit of boost and 3" exhaust and run an atmo bov just fine without stall, you just need to get it to a good tuner/mechanic like I did as they know what hoses to block off and plumb what to where. Yeah its wank factor hehe but I love my BOV, it doesnt go off under 3000RPM or normal driving unless I gas it so I can live with it. When you have a turbo its great to remind your self with a nice pssht every now and then hehe whats the harm in that The only problems I have is the exhaust pops occasionally on gear changes which it didnt do before which is normal from what i've read and can be fixed with an SAFC Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1504480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R33_Series2Lover Posted August 6, 2005 Author Share Posted August 6, 2005 Exhaust pops ay. So your backfiring. I guess you would need to adjust the tension thingos. I was reading on the GFB website this is the case. So I can attach my Stealth FX BOV even though my car is stock then. but it needs to have the majority of the air going through the plumback side and only abit to the atmo side. I also need to make sure that I tighten the spring valves also. Am i sort of going along the right track. If i can reattach my BOV and go to the exhaust .place and get an exhaust done i'll be a very happy man. Damn cold when I first warm up my car and start to drive when its a heaps cold night I always have white smoke coming from the rear at the first traffic lights Im thinking its the cold and hot air meeting but whats the mystery to me is why does it only happen then and when I drive around its all good at the other lights. Its still the same hot air meeting the cold air. I find it quite strange. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1504620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
col Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 i have the ssqv on my r32 gtst its fairly standerd it does stall sometimes but i was told that the prob goes away if u run higher boost mybe iam wrong but i think the spring in them are to stroung for standerd boost Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1504813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 more boost will make the problem worse Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1504823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INASNT Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 This product should do the trick: http://www.nengun.com/catalogue/product/578 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> those dont do shit, and are a band aid solution! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1507632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
**JaR** Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 sooooo i jst got a Blitz bov... and my cars practically stock ( 3" exhaust and pod ), so its bs on the stall thing if you get someone who actually knows what there doing to put it on the car??? btw whys an aftermarket b.o.v a wank factor, alota people have them and i reckon they sound good as, plus it lets people know theres a snail under your bonnet the only wank bov around is those electric ones for non-turbo cars..... THATS a wank factor. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1510373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypeR33 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 sooooo i jst got a Blitz bov... and my cars practically stock ( 3" exhaust and pod ), so its bs on the stall thing if you get someone who actually knows what there doing to put it on the car??? If you got the blitz dual drive you will have no problem at all. Once it is installed you can adjust the spring tesion yourself as its really simple. Take it for a drive and put your foot on the clutch while your cruising. If it stalls, wind up the tension with the allen key (thats how I set the tension on mine). You will get to a point where it will work great and no stalling problems I am sure there are plenty of other bov's that you can adjust the spring tension, but I had this one and know it will work fine on a completely stock car. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1510614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
**JaR** Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 coolness. thanks for the info mate. B) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1510624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaz_gts25t Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 whats atmo ? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1510839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R33_Series2Lover Posted August 10, 2005 Author Share Posted August 10, 2005 So a blitz dual drive BOV on a stock R33 would be what i would need to get so i can have the sound but without the stalling ay. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1512708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl33ek Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Atmo is ATMOspheric bov. Instead of plumbing the unused boost pressure back into the engine, it vents out to the atmosphere making that whistle/pshht sound everyone loves so much. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83052-truth-or-urban-legend/#findComment-1512791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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