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I'm pretty set on the Alfa 147 GTA now though. It's an insane amount of power that the car isn't really equipped to handle well on the track (no awd etc), but in reality that's not where I'm taking it. It'll still beat most cars off the line, has a great sounding v6, still handles better than most, and is a massively stylish italian car..  I haven't really owned a luxury sportscar with all leather etc, so I'm keen to try it on for size for a while. It's been all Nissan for me so far.

Good luck with it. They're nice looking cars, and with a bit of practice to learn its idiosyncracies, still a quick car.

As for "luxury sports car with leather etc", that you're "not taking to the track", an Alfa 147GTA is Nissan 350Z money.

Also vs the Gold R32 which a couple of ppl recommended

I remember a Wheels mag article about the R32 where they said it had a rubbish suspension setup for Australian roads.

I'd go the Golf V GTi (probably manual as its still better than DSG from what I have read), followed by the Clio, Pug, Megana Sport, Cooper S, and then the 147. You'll get murdered on resale with an Alfa too, but its certainly an emotive car :mellow:

Considered a second hand 3-series, say a 325 or 330?

Lucien.

I've had a WRX for 3 years now and it's a great car that also comes as a hatch.

Driven the new Golf DSG and liked it but would miss the power.

Personally I'm updating to a V35 Skyline coupe as soon as I can but for everyday transport why not wait and check out the Mazda 6 MPS due out in a couple of months

I'm definitely after european this time around, so not really interested in 350z, WRX etc.. Also I like the fact that the 147 GTA is so obscure (hardly anyone knows about it and you don't see one every day). When I bought the GTR, that was also a pull for me.. A lot of people knew about the though, due to Gran Turismo probably, but it was still a freak car that you hardly ever saw.. They're a bit more common now though, and every second GTST owner sticks badges etc on their car and think they're really hot pretending to be something they're not and just wrecked the whole meaning of GTR..

The new golf Gti is impossible to get... 9 months waiting list for those, so not even an option. It's also still pretty weak when there's a whole other class of hatches around (147 GTA, Audi A3 3.2 quattro etc) with an extra 50% power.

I've test driven the GTA a couple of times now, and I haven't found anything better for my current situation, so I'm pretty sure that's what I'm getting now anyway.

I'm definitely after european this time around, so not really interested in 350z, WRX etc.. Also I like the fact that the 147 GTA is so obscure (hardly anyone knows about it and you don't see one every day)

The problem is that its bodykit mods are very subtle compared to your cooking model 147, so most people will just look at it and think its another limp-wristed hatchback with a nice front and rear bumper.

The problem is that its bodykit mods are very subtle compared to your cooking model 147, so most people will just look at it and think its another limp-wristed hatchback with a nice front and rear bumper.

hehe... yeah, but to be honest, I don't really mind blending in. They can just get a shock when an inconspicuous hatch destroys them at the lights. And with 184kw in a relatively light package with 300nm torque delivered early and no turbo lag, it will beat most cars at the lights, including most skylines. :D

I've had more than enough attention with the GTR, and I'm looking forward to not having everyone want to drag me off at every second set of lights.

The number of people that pull up next to me and try to get me to rev it just shits me.. it was fun years ago, but it gets old.

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