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Its pretty simple really, WSID have realised they can make more $$ from the cars with 2 drivers by charging an extra $100 for the 2nd driver

As for what nxtime quoted that was only aimed at the single driver entries, not the dual driver entries

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I just quoted what was written in the first post of this thread. What BU5TER said doesn't surprise me. I would think that paying the extra $100 should allow extra spectators, but I wouldn't hold my breath when it comes to WSID's rules and their private track hire policy. We are lucky that they are even allowing us to have a private day.

Why haven't they realised that they could make even more money by at least allowing more cars to race.

Ok the man with the answers is here.

elbee - your second driver actually takes the spot of your first pit crew.

doodz - you can come with me but no friends unless other entrants put them on their lists because I don't know them.  In return you can help me with the bbq and drinks stall.  We need a couple of other helpers too people.

Parking is no problem.

kewlies ill do that.. ill come alone...

unfortunately WSID also have the ability to make and change rules as they like, and it quite often happens :) it sucks, but we are extremely lucky that they are even allowing any private test and tune at all.... they use to limit it to only 2 spectators per car, they are being very lenient allowing 5 so please people, dont tell your mates about this day and get them to rock up hoping they will bluff their way in because they wont.... all they will succeed in doing is having SAU's name put on a black list to never hold another TNT again. And i am sure that will piss alot of people in here off :):(

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unfortunately WSID also have the ability to make and change rules as they like, and it quite often happens :) it sucks, but we are extremely lucky that they are even allowing any private test and tune at all.... they use to limit it to only 2 spectators per car, they are being very lenient allowing 5 so please people, dont tell your mates about this day and get them to rock up hoping they will bluff their way in because they wont.... all they will succeed in doing is having SAU's name put on a black list to never hold another TNT again. And i am sure that will piss alot of people in here off :):(

I second that.

Definitely agree there. We don't need another repeat of an earlier workshop private day that had hundreds of extra spectators roaming about the place without the additional staff and facilities to accommodate them. But I am sure that this won't be the case with the SAu people as was evidenced by the last drag day that was held.

I currently have 16-20 on the reserve list Tommy.

Elbee - yes WSID make the rules and change them on a whim sometimes. They nearly didn't allow 2nd drivers at all. The alternative to the second driver rule as it stands would be a full extra payment for the extra driver and that would get the extra compliment of spectators. Of course it's too late for that now because we are already fully booked.

The reason why there are not more cars is because of ANDRA rules and insurance. Basically if you go over 50 cars it is classed as a different event and requires a lot more staff and increased insurance. You end up getting hit with all sorts of extra charges and need 1000 or more PAYING spectators just to cover your costs let alone all the extra organisation required.

I work from 8am til 6pm mon-fri and in between organising Show and shines, drag days, track days and other club stuff I need to rebuild my engine and spend some time with my girlfriend so this event is not going to get any bigger while I'm running it.

It should also be noted that although we all like to have a whinge about WSID the fact is that WSID Ltd. (the company) is a non profit organisation. The government spent 30 odd million building the place and they want some of it back via WSID Ltd. Who should pay? Us or your Mum (via taxes)? Turns out it's a bit of both.

WSID is run by drag racing enthusiasts too, just like this club. We might not agree with their methods but they have to make the decision on what to charge based on a bunch of considerations that we don't know the details of.

Anyway, that's my rant. If I could make it cheaper or better I would.

Charlie, Brett, Brad, Adrian and others understand these things from their proximity but the rest of you will have to trust me.

As a side note, the calaisturbo forum was asked if they were interested and they spent the entire thread bitching about the price. The ausrotary forum was asked because we feared we would not get the numbers and they all paid straight up without a peep about price. Here I guess we are 50/50.

A number of people missed out because they didn't get their money in fast enough. We would love to hold it open til the last minute for straggling Skylines but if we end up 20 cars short the club loses $2k.

Assuming this event runs smooth like the last one we will run another next year when the weather cools a little and you can all get you money in for it early and avoid dissapointment.

Have I been too harsh here?

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