New P Plater Laws???

[**JaR**]

soooo was just wanderin through the loungeroom and noticed some bs about new p plater laws that are being proposed for victorian p platers, pretty much the same as the nsw ones, green for first yrs, red for 2nd and 3rd yrs, and somehow this magically reduces road tolls...... riiiiggghhhttttt

[sammus]

channel nine had a pic of a black r32 for their presentation of that piece of news. the onyl reason i oppose this is because i''ll have to spend another 5 bux on different coloured plates besides that who cares

[_IrIsH_]

also not allowed to use handsfree mobiles.

[VL-TRBO-RB20]

how crap! at least i can keep my red p's

[blind_elk]

also not allowed to use handsfree mobiles.

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Damn stupid idea. It's already unlawful to use hand-held, but it doesn't stop people using them while driving. What makes these bureaucrats think extending the rule will make the slightest difference. (being disqualified from driving doesn't stop some people from still hopping behind the wheel)

[**JaR**]

lol zactly.

i dont want green p's, it'll totally clash with the color of my car hahaha :

[nghiagero]

steve bracks is the biggest moron i'd say.... also that minister for transport mr. sumthing Batchelor. thoes guys are purly stupid, i think it has somthing to do with the color green being a passive color that would reduce the road toll

[SuAvE-1]

I f*cken hate this bullsh*t.

[**JaR**]

steve bracks is the biggest moron i'd say.... also that minister for transport mr. sumthing Batchelor. thoes guys are purly stupid, i think it has somthing to do with the color green being a passive color that would reduce the road toll

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:lol:

i'd love to be in the office when they brainstorm these ideas..... ok so we wanna reduce the road toll with young drivers, so we wont put money into driver training or anything like that, O0O0O got it, LETS CHANGE THE COLOR OF THE P PLATES, THAT'LL TOTALLY WORK... stupid government.

[Mid_Nite_R33]

:lol:

i'd love to be in the office when they brainstorm these ideas..... ok so we wanna reduce the road toll with young drivers, so we wont put money into driver training or anything like that, O0O0O got it, LETS CHANGE THE COLOR OF THE P PLATES, THAT'LL TOTALLY WORK... stupid government.

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No shit ! They all these money from giving out fines left right and centre....but still no real solution has been found... f*kin pathetic...

[slow_r31]

actually its not a bad idea, p platers in there first year can of had very little road experience, vs a p-plater who's had there license for several years. i think its a good idea to identify 1st year p-platers

[**JaR**]

ur not a p plater are you.....

[CNR33]

actually its not a bad idea, p platers in there first year can of had very little road experience, vs a p-plater who's had there license for several years. i think its a good idea to identify 1st year p-platers

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You can identify dangerous/ inexperienced drivers till the cows come home, won't make them safer or lower the road toll, just mix the colour up when they show the wrecks on the news.

I think driver training is the only real solution, and they don't seem to give a stuff about even considering it.

Change their attitude, not the colour of a little plate that half of them don't even display

[**JaR**]

You can identify dangerous/ inexperienced drivers till the cows come home, won't make them safer or lower the road toll, just mix the colour up when they show the wrecks on the news.

I think driver training is the only real solution, and they don't seem to give a stuff about even considering it.

Change their attitude, not the colour of a little plate that half of them don't even display

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agreed 100%

[MerlinTheHapyPig]

at the moment, it's just a proposal

http://www.arrivealive.vic.gov.au/forms/ydsafety_1_form.php

(follow link under 'additional information' to young driver discussion paper)

check out the above link for more info. As mentioned, it's asking for public comment, so if you oppose these changes either use the online form on the above website. Or write to

Discussion Paper – Young Driver Safety

VicRoads

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KEW VIC 3101

I would think that most people on this forum might object to one of the suggested guidelines

"Review high-powered vehicle provisions"

Now is you chance to have a say on the issue, and I'd encourage everyeone to fill out the forum. P-platers are outnumbered by the rest of the car-driving community so it's important that as many people respond to this issue as possible.

[**JaR**]

thanks for postin up that link dude, and away 2 it i go.....

[**JaR**]

i urge all other p plate drivers on these forums to fill out that form as well with your say while we have a chance.

[Kaz200]

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Edited November 7, 2005 by Kaz180

[dezz]

Wish they spent as much time getting old people off the road as they do P platers.. never had a p plater run into me but had a few trucks & old people almost kill me & mine :\

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I just had my 2cents....well, it was more like a dollar...

here's what i had to say

: I think the proposed laws are a scapegoat. Changing the color of the plates that we as p-platers display WILL NOT reduce the road toll. Identifying first year and in-experienced drivers does nothing to reduce the road toll, it simply changes the color of that drivers plate. The only way to reduce the road toll, is to provide adequate driver training. The current system, is a joke. It all starts with the Learners permit. To gain this permit, it is not a requirement that you have ever operated a motor vehicle, but that you are able to read a book, and remember some road rules. In addition, there is no way to determine if an L plater is ready to move on to their P\'s...but in the current system, the only requirement is that you have had your L\'s for a certain amount of time (doesn\'t mean you\'ve driven much), and that you are 18 years old. Getting your P\'s is no more difficult in reality. When you attend driving lessons with an instructor, you are taught how to pass the test, not how to drive. Put simply, that is the problem. What is required is a change in the licensing system. Being able to read (or hear for that matter) and remember some laws, should not be all that is needed to put someone on the road. What is required is that drivers receive adequate training. Taking a few lessons and learning how to drive at speeds that hold up traffic, and how to parralel park, is not adequate at all. It doesn\'t even come close. Until there is a change in what is required to obtain a license, the road toll will not be reduced by any great amount. Banning P platers from driving \"High performance cars\" may save the odd life here or there, but it is not what is to blame for the high road toll among P platers. If we are banned from driving these \"high performance vehicles\" we will once again move on to the next level (full license) with no experience, yet will be aloud to buy the most powerful car we can afford. Change the licensing system so that we are taught to drive, how to operate a vehicle properly, and safely. Teach people how to react in the event of an emergency, not just how to park a car on a quiet street. Until driver training is reviewed, and changes are implemented in the licensing system, there will be no decline in the road toll. Banning \"performance cars\" is not the answer, as an idiot who can\'t drive will kill his or herself in any car, and possibly take others down with them.

Wow, that is long, i wonder if it will even be read. lol

ah well, its better than saying "let me drive my 300rwkw car because i get more roots in it"

[CNR33]

ah well, its better than saying "let me drive my 300rwkw car because i get more roots in it"

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Hmm... both strong arguments!