Lowered Springs

[Guest FlyGuy]

I have booked my car into pedders for a set of lowered springs. They tested my shocks today to see if they also needed to be replaced, but they were fine.

Am I making the correct decision going for pedders springs? The guy at pedders said if I went for King springs they wouldn't be any different, but the King springs can pop out of where they sit if the car gets lifted off the ground. When he told me this I assumed the Pedders springs were the way to go?

How do you think these springs will change my handling?

[d0p3y]

Pedders, Kings - Both good. Will effect the handling yes, should be a fair bit stiffer.

[B-Man]

I've had Pedders on my last two cars (TEIN on the current one) - Pedders are good, nothing wrong with the springs - But if you want your car to handle really well, go for the whole package - Like the Whiteline one....

Cheers,

[MicK51]

my dad installed a all round whiteline setup on his r33 and i'd have to say i wasn't all that impressed!

after receiving the wrong shocks and haveing a HUGE mess around with payment we finaly got it all together and the 1st thing i noticed was how badly the springs fit the shocks. We had the custom whiteline springs with DMS adjustable oil shocks and the spring apeared to big for the hight adjustment rings, they over lapped quite a bit.

However we installed them on the car and took it for a drive, the handling was remarkably better but the shocks were extreamly noisy. The springs would creak and tinkle and it wasn't long till a very disturbing grunching noise started coming from one of the front shocks!

turns out its faulty so now we have to send it back! after the dramas we had getting them up here in the 1st place who knows how long that will take!

i'd have to admit though, having the height adjustment was pretty cool, and the feel of the car through corners when the shocks were on there hardest setting was awesome.

[_turtle_]

hey flyguy, can i ask where ur getting this done and how much it will cost u? i'm thinking about changing the shocks and springs.

[Guest MRE]

I have KingSprings on mine.

Low's est.30mm and they are great.

You can get Super Low's est.50mm.

I would not be surprised if pedders used the Kings and put a coat of paint on them

[Zahos]

On my last car (R31), I had bought a set of lovells springs (they dont exist anymore), and they were great! The felt very stiff, and handled well considering I didnt upgrade shocks, swaybars, etc....

One of them broke eventually, so I had to get new ones... Since they weren't around anymore, I decided to get some king springs....

They were CRAP compared to the lovels! The car was bouncing around like crazy (with new shocks). They took a few months to sag, and became even worse! To say the least, my cars handling was better with the original springs....

Well, thats my experience with king springs. The springs they manufacture for R33's may be completely different, but I thought you might like some feedback from someone who has had a negative experience...

Zahos

[Guest FlyGuy]

Originally posted by _turtle_

hey flyguy, can i ask where ur getting this done and how much it will cost u?  i'm thinking about changing the shocks and springs.

I'm getting the pedders springs installed at pedders. They quoted me around $650 for the installation of 4 lowered springs and full wheel alignment. I thought it was a little pricey but I want to get it done properly. Probably worth paying a little more.

When I first took my car in so they could show me what the ride height would be they completed a free check of my shocks to see if I needed new ones, I thought that was pretty cool.

[Guest Boxhead]

in reply to MRE , how do you know king springs dont put a coat on pedders springs?

[51jay]

Boxhead.......cos he scraped a bit of paint off.....and they weren't blue underneith

[Guest MRE]

If you check King Springs web site you wont find them but with the right account they are there

Mine were $550 fitted, 4 wheel alignment + Camber Adjustment.

City Suspension

http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~citysusp/

They also told me that around May that Koni are making special Shock's to fit R33's

[NIZ30]

I paid $450 for 4 king super lows fitted.

[XCUZME]

i had some pedders springs on my car with stock shocks before changing to my current tein nr coilovers...

good springs, not too bumpy a ride.

whoever told you that about king springs is telling you bs, any spring if its too short (that is if you're going for a spastic reduction in height) or if you cut them is going to pop out when you jack the car up, otherwise there wouldnt be enough travel in the shock. but within reason, that should never happen, unless you lower your skyline 5 inches.

[Guest DON91E]

hehehehe

well george u seen my can and yes that is spastic

mine are Kmac, 2.5 f and 2.75 back

my car feels good nice and stiff, but through bumps god its a pain!!!

and yes any lowered spring i think if not matched up to the spring rate of the shcoks will fly off.

Donnie

[Brody]

How do you pick which springs to use with what shocks?

Im running koni yellow sports now, and looking just to drop in some whiteline springs, any size i should be asking for?

[Robo]

Quick question,

Does it make that much of a difference to the handling if you fit just lowered springs on a stock R33??? (say half an inch).

Cheers

[SS8_Gohan]

i've been told that just making ur car lower doesn't necessarily make ur car handle better, it's a bit of a myth. I wouldn't know personally, haven't done any suspension work to my nissan pulsar

[Targa Tom]

You're right... lowering the car does not make it handle better, cos it effects the roll centre. Honda for instance go to a lot of trouble to get their roll centre to optimum by making pivot points and contol arms relatively of equal lengths. Al you are doing by lowering your car is using 50-90mm of the suspension travel, consiquently your handling is moved in the range of movement.

As for the drop off or rattle, DMS and Tein have a "helper" or Anti-rattle spring that when the car is static, it is fully compressed. On over extension it is strong enough to keep a little pressur on the main spring and prevents "banging" and rattles....

When I got my car from Japan it had (still has) HA Tein shox and springs... Lowered to 320 hub centre to guard lip. Looked horn, but impractical for my requirments (Targa Tas).

So if its asthetics you want, just throw in the springs. If you want handling, like a race car.... buy a race car. or race car suspension

Good luck guys

[Guest FlyGuy]

I got my pedders springs installed with the original shocks. Handles heaps better and feels a lot more stable on the road. I think the $628 I paid for the four lowered pedders springs was worth it. The car came down 1.5 inches and the standard springs that were taken out were in excellent condition.

Looks like I didn't need race car suspension to obtain better handling Oh and from an aesthetical sense it looks heaps better.

[Guest Flawless]

What Pedders did u goto? Got any before and after pics??