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are you having me on hungry6?  you don't have a RS6? do you!!!  do you really have a X5.

i love the way the flames shoot from the exhaust on my RS6, on the playstation anyway.

:lol: :lol: Champion

My folks have a 4.6l X5, god damn they sound nice ay'?

I'm not trying to brag or what ever, as I've said before, my passion for skylines have date back ages before these forums came up, I think I might be the first person here to own a r32 gtr, one of the original aussie delivered one, but since have own others, I also enjoy my r33 gtst that is powered by a RB26det, more so than the others, as it is the car, that has been taken furthest away from it original intent by the manufacturer.

I see. What line of work are you in if you dont mind answering?

I see. What line of work are you in if you dont mind answering?

Ahh, sorry for taking so long to get back, Yes anyway I'm a coucil labourer

and I just happens to work really hard and saves heaps.

Can someone please explain the appeal of this new attraction to soft 4x4s? This is a serious question - why do the sell so well?

Can't stand any 4x4 that doesn't have offroad credentials. A serious offroader can justify the comprimise, but these Grass n Gravel 4x4s are just horrible. They cost more than regular cars. They chew fuel. They dont handle as well as cars. They often are less comfortable than cars. I can't see past them in car parks meaning i have to back out blind. They are so high that you can't see small children when manouvering in car parks / near schools (most children killed near schools are killed by 4x4s). They roll over in avoidance situations. They kill people when they hit smaller vehicles (and most vehicles are smaller than these behemoths). They often do worse than conventional cars in NCAP crash safety tests. And equivilently sized people carrier has far better fuel economy and space utilisation. A conventional wagon will often do everything a 4x4 will ever do. I genuinely cannot see why anyone would buy one.

I beleive the craze took off in America, where manufacturers loved big 4x4s because they could be developed cheaply by not having to comply with "car" safety legislation. Yet many people argue safety is an attractive feature...

End Rant.

I dunno about soft 4x4 getting dump due to a price hike, maybe to a certain extent, but alot of ppls buy them supposedly on that "higher saftey ground" which is a total bullshit myth, lol.

As for the reason others buy soft 4x4 is that frequent beach work is more suite for them than the true 4x4, on the fraser coast we have a 10 lanes highway made of sand and a soft 4x4 would be ideal, not a behemoth of the past.

Well that where mine will be stationed anyway.

I'd have to sit in one to decide, but if I needed a big family car I'd consider one. They're just oversized wagons.

Of course, I'd lower mine as far as I could to give it the same ride height as other cars (while still giving it a decent, sedan / wagon like ride quality).

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