MIU Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 i just contact the seller today and i went to inspect his R34 M-spec Nur.its 100% general M-spec Nur.i checked everything i can and this is best GTR i seen.all the panel are line up and none of the panel been paint etc.under the car are straight.very good car.i offer the seller $145000 and i happy to pay $1000 deposite today,but he doesnt want to sell at my offer $145000. i been looking to purschase one M-spec Nur.all the price i seen at auction in japan around 8.5m~8.8m for good clean clean car+5% japan local tax+fob+shpping/container/insurance when shipping the car from japan to australia/compliance/tax in Australia+luxury tax etc.it work out around $150000 by the time car get here. i have seen one Nur spec in japan.sell around 6.5m(very cheap)but car has damaged on the chassis.thats why i believe good Nur-spec sell around 8m~9m in japan. *i asked the seller in QLD for the M-spec Nur.i asked him why got R34GTT wheel.he said the compliance shop put them on to compliance.thats why he got it on. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1548191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezz Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 Justin , first i dont think you will buy a good NUR for 6 mil jpy , when i was there last year i offered 6.4 mil for one but they wouldn't go under 7 mil.But Zele International (very reputable company) are selling that M-Spec NUR with 38,000 genuine km's with one owner and no accident history... for 6,000,000 yen.Lets say you bought one for 6 mil , ( a bit rough or high k's ) thats about $73 k ( current rate 1$=82 jpy )by the time you pay for shipping , import duty , gst ,luxury tax, compliance , rego and stamp duty you will be looking at about $110-115k . So all up expenses to get it shipped to AU and complied and taxes paid is about $42,000? How much is the 'luxury tax'? How much is compliance for SEVs? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1548226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NXTIME Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 Car purchase cost (in Japanese YEN) ¥6,000,000 Agent's fee in Japan (FOB charges) ¥80,000 Exchange rate (yen to AU$) 84.00 Car cost in Japan $72,381 LOCAL COSTS Broker agency fee $1,000 Shipping $1,825 Shipping insurance (optional) Import Duty (10% of FOB cost) $7,238 G.S.T. (10% of CIF value) $8,080 plus Luxury Car Tax $8,437 Compliance cost ~$5,000 Total cost before registration (AU$) $103,961 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1548306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NXTIME Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 If the car costs 8mil Yen: Enter the car cost (in Japanese YEN) ¥8,000,000 Agent's fee in Japan (FOB charges) ¥80,000 Exchange rate (yen to AU$) 84.00 Car cost in Japan $96,190 LOCAL COSTS Our agency fee $1,000 Shipping $1,825 Shipping insurance (optional) Import Duty (10% of FOB cost) $9,619 G.S.T. (10% of CIF value) $10,705 plus Luxury Car Tax (if applicable) $15,655 Compliance costs $5,000 Total cost before registration (AU$) $139,995 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1548313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NXTIME Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 On top of this you have to pay the relevant state registration and stamp duties (3% in NSW). Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1548314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIU Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 for the car that expensive,i would use container to ship the car plus insurance.it will cost you around $6000 for the shipping+insurance!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1548321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 MIU that car (in qld ) doesn't have an v-spec II bonnet so it maybe a m-spec nur . <{POST_SNAPBACK}> it's definately not an M Spec Nur. Run the VIN in FAST and it comes up as a V Spec 2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1549080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 i just contact the seller today and i went to inspect his R34 M-spec Nur.its 100% general M-spec Nur.i checked everything i can and this is best GTR i seen.all the panel are line up and none of the panel been paint etc.under the car are straight.very good car.i offer the seller $145000 and i happy to pay $1000 deposite today,but he doesnt want to sell at my offer $145000.i been looking to purschase one M-spec Nur.all the price i seen at auction in japan around 8.5m~8.8m for good clean clean car+5% japan local tax+fob+shpping/container/insurance when shipping the car from japan to australia/compliance/tax in Australia+luxury tax etc.it work out around $150000 by the time car get here. i have seen one Nur spec in japan.sell around 6.5m(very cheap)but car has damaged on the chassis.thats why i believe good Nur-spec sell around 8m~9m in japan. *i asked the seller in QLD for the M-spec Nur.i asked him why got R34GTT wheel.he said the compliance shop put them on to compliance.thats why he got it on. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ok Once and for all..... 1. The car advertised for $200,000 in QLD is NOT a Genuine M Spec Nur... Nissan say that chassis was built as a V Spec 2 so therefore it is impossible that the car is a genuine M Spec Nur. There is no other proof required of a car's validity than running the Chassis Number through FAST. 2. The story about the GTT wheels is bullshit. The car has to be complied in factory condition. R34 GTR's had 18x9" Wheels standard with 245/45R 18 tyres so therefore the 17" GTT Wheels CANNOT be used to comply the car. If so, the compliance plate holder is in direct violation of his Licence and may have it revoked. If you still think after all that, that the car is a Genuine M Spec Nur, then there is nothing else I can say or do to convince you otherwise.... I hope you enjoy being fooled. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1549082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Car purchase cost (in Japanese YEN) ¥6,000,000 Agent's fee in Japan (FOB charges) ¥80,000 Exchange rate (yen to AU$) 84.00 Car cost in Japan $72,381 LOCAL COSTS Broker agency fee $1,000 Shipping $1,825 Shipping insurance (optional) Import Duty (10% of FOB cost) $7,238 G.S.T. (10% of CIF value) $8,080 plus Luxury Car Tax $8,437 Compliance cost ~$5,000 Total cost before registration (AU$) $103,961 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You do realise that Luxury Car Tax is 25% don't you? And you have to add shipping to the cost of the car before you add your duties and taxes. By your calculation, Luxury car tax comes to $22,447 Car Cost: $72,381 (which is optimistic on it's own as you wont get 84yen when you send money to Japan) Shipping: $1,825 Combined Total: $74,206 Import Duty @ 10% on combined total: $7420.60 New Total: $81626.60 GST @ 10% on New Total: $8162.65 Total before Luxury Car Tax: $89,789.25 Luxury Car Tax @ 25%: $22,447.30 Therefore you're looking at roughly $120,000 before on roads. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1549093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrxhoon Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 (edited) You do realise that Luxury Car Tax is 25% don't you? And you have to add shipping to the cost of the car before you add your duties and taxes. By your calculation, Luxury car tax comes to $22,447Car Cost: $72,381 (which is optimistic on it's own as you wont get 84yen when you send money to Japan) Shipping: $1,825 Combined Total: $74,206 Import Duty @ 10% on combined total: $7420.60 New Total: $81626.60 GST @ 10% on New Total: $8162.65 Total before Luxury Car Tax: $89,789.25 Luxury Car Tax @ 25%: $22,447.30 Therefore you're looking at roughly $120,000 before on roads. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You are not right my friend , Charlie is closer to the mark , although he is out in a few thinks as well , he has under estimated afew things . Shipping for starters if roll on roll off is only $1050 ( i wouldn't do it that way , container is the way to go on a car like that ) but when you add all the extras like customs clearence , q/tine and a steam clean it will be a little over $2000 + tow to steamclean + workshop . The other thing is stamp duty in nsw is 3% for the first $46 k then 5% for the balance + normal rego and ctp . As far ass compliance goes , i can get it done for $4000 ( even less ) but you have to add the cost of new tyres up to $2.5 k for a set + maybe new brake pads around $1k + removal of any aftermarket parts ( exhaust , pods ,etc ) so in reality it maybe a lot more than that too. As for luxury tax , yea its 25% but only on the balance above $56 k not on the whole amount . That car seems very cheap from my experience though , it should be around the 7-7.5 million jpy . If you look at the other cars they have at that site you will notice that is very cheap so i dont know if accident car or not . When i was there last year if i found a good NUR M-SPEC for 6 mil i would have it here now , i can assure of that . Edited August 28, 2005 by wrxhoon Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1549121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NXTIME Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Yes, I did omit a few things as I did it quickly, but the end price isn't that far off the calculations. wrxhoon as more of an exact idea as he actually went to Japan looking to buy a NUR. Either way, it will cost $150K+ for a NUR to be ready to drive on the road here (thanks to the govt's lovely taxes). Personally, Instead of the $150K for a genuine NUR I would buy a regular R34 GTR that is already here for half the price, then spend the balance modifying the socks off the thing. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1549264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb31 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 (edited) Hey Guys The nissan FAST software does lie!! There are many cars that have not been recorded properly. I have seen this before. I would assume that it would cost you more to convert a vspec-II to an M-spec Nur than to buy an M-spec Nur. That's assuming you could get a plate made perfectly, replace the bonnet without breaking the factory paint, convert the engine to an 24U, convert the interior, etc etc etc. I have seen this car and I am sure it is an M-spec Nur. It's brand spanking new all over. All nuts and bolts are original and untouched. There must be an error in the software! M Edited August 28, 2005 by rb31 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1549411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NXTIME Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 http://www.j-spec.com.au/list/index.php?ID=3733 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1549502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb31 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Too bad if it's accident repaired and rejected in AUS!!!!!!!! Ouch! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1550068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkymonkey Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 We DO check if the car is eligible for import before advertising you know... our company name isn't Pres.. never mind We are able to have a full mechanical inspection done on it if requested... just in case the owner happened to crash the car between picking it up and the 5500km he drove it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1550074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewid Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 (edited) oops my point had already been made. too bad you cant delete posts anymore Edited August 28, 2005 by sewid Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1550134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Hey GuysThe nissan FAST software does lie!! There are many cars that have not been recorded properly. I have seen this before. I would assume that it would cost you more to convert a vspec-II to an M-spec Nur than to buy an M-spec Nur. That's assuming you could get a plate made perfectly, replace the bonnet without breaking the factory paint, convert the engine to an 24U, convert the interior, etc etc etc. I have seen this car and I am sure it is an M-spec Nur. It's brand spanking new all over. All nuts and bolts are original and untouched. There must be an error in the software! M <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Even if it did lie about the model , the manufacture date isnt wrong. Considering ALL Nur's were made in February 2002, This being a June model could only be a V Spec 2. Nur's were not made in any other month. And that info comes direct from Nissan Japan Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1551847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb31 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 (edited) You may be looking at a libel suit here: Out of curiosity I checked 4 other M-spec Nur chassis numbers with nissan today (they all came up V-spec-II) 4 V-spec-II Nur chassis numbers (they came up V-spec-II) 1 M-spec chassis number (came up V-spec-II) There was no mention of M-spec or Nur. I am told that all above cars are V-spec-II base category cars. Good luck! Even if it did lie about the model , the manufacture date isnt wrong. Considering ALL Nur's were made in February 2002, This being a June model could only be a V Spec 2. Nur's were not made in any other month. And that info comes direct from Nissan Japan <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Edited August 30, 2005 by rb31 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1551890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 what were the manufacture dates? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1552425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb31 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 (edited) Whoever told you that they pumped out 250 M-spec Nurs and 750 V-spec-II Nurs in the month of Feb 02 and gave them a build date Feb 02 was having a lend of you. You are still missing the point anyway. The FAST software is not complete for these cars. Check the chassis number on the one J-spec is advertising and I'll bet you it comes up as a V-spec-II depending on which version of the software you have. Why would someone make a gold VIN plate from a V-spec-II VIN plate anyway. Quite pointless and a lot of effort for nothing. If you are that good at altering VIN plates then you may as well go the whole hog and make a new plate with an M-spec Nur chassis number. As I said, cost and logistics involved in making a V-spec-II into an M-spec Nur is extremely prohibitory. It's not hard to trace these cars back to original sale using the log books anyway. I have seen this car and as a GTR enthusiast I can tell you it is genuine! This is a collectors car and as far as I know the only one in AUS. Awesome car! I can't afford it but the person who can will be very happy. Good luck! what were the manufacture dates? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Edited August 30, 2005 by rb31 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/85381-how-many-nurs-in-aus/page/2/#findComment-1552521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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