R33 Gtst Whiteline & Bilstein Suspension

[SkyKC]

Jamex deliverd me the wrong front shockers on Monday. They deliverd shocksrs for R33 GTST part no "F4-B46-1873-HO" which is wrong since my car is R33 GTS4, I checked with Bilstein Australia, a local tech and few other memeber in this forum which confirmed this.

Garry, could you kindly tell me the procedure to return both front shockers to jamex and get the correct ones, according to Bilstein Australia part num should be "F4-B46-2107-HO" (As you know same thing which will fit into R33 GTR).

PM sent, kindly reply asap.

Cheers

[SkyKC]

Jamex deliverd me the wrong front shockers on Monday. They deliverd shocksrs for R33 GTST part no "F4-B46-1873-HO" which is wrong since my car is R33 GTS4, I checked with Bilstein Australia, a local tech and few other memeber in this forum which confirmed this.

Garry, could you kindly tell me the procedure to return both front shockers to jamex and get the correct ones, according to Bilstein Australia part num should be "F4-B46-2107-HO" (As you know same thing which will fit into R33 GTR).

PM sent, kindly reply asap.

Cheers

[Sydneykid]

No they didn't, PM sent.

Chin, is it really necessary today to;

Send me 1 SMS message ?

Send me 2 PM's ?

Send me 1 Email ?

and post it in this thread?

cheers

[SkyKC]

Sorry Gary, your email and PM is directed to my MS outlook which sometimes act crazy,(if it fails to send a message it will resend it after while) ill try to solve it. Just wanted to post a picture thats why I posted here.

Infact when Bilsetein Aus told me front shockers i got is for 2WD not for 4WD and height is wrong, I got panic

Cheers

No they didn't, PM sent.

Chin, is it really necessary today to;

Send me 1 SMS message ?

Send me 2 PM's ?

Send me 1 Email ?

and post it in this thread?

cheers

[Fry_33]

My shocks arrived today !

Thanks for all your efforts involved with this groupbuy Gary, much appreciated.

[SkyKC]

I just re read through the entire 12 pages of this thread, and still couldnt find a post explaining the height that relates to each groove....I know everyones saying that the shocks come in the 350/340mm position, but wouldn't it be a hell of a lot easier if we knew the height each groove acheived?

Both my front and rear shocks have the circlip in the groove 3rd from the bottom. HKS-R33 has told me his are installed at 340/330, and that his circlips are in the following positions:

Rear: Second from the bottom (1 below where mine are now)

Front: Third from the bottom (same as mine)

He tells me he had to have the height re adjusted after getting it wrong the first time, so you'd assume he got it right the second time...and the photo of his car above do seem to sit lower than most, and very even...

Could we please hear the height acheived by each groove (for both front and rear) and which grooves the circlips SHOULD be in out of the box for 350/340? I think it would clear it up for everyone very simply.

Also this post

Has anyone lowered it to the ~340/~330 height with 1 rear camber kit?

Dezz,

I found this on forum,

"Hi Mike, the springs are 25mm lower than the standard 375mm, so that's 350 mm, then there are 3 circlip grooves 8mm apart. Hence 350 mm - 24mm = 326 mm."

But still I cant figur out how to make my setting 355/345 yet

Cheers

[dezz]

Dezz,

I found this on forum,

"Hi Mike, the springs are 25mm lower than the standard 375mm, so that's 350 mm, then there are 3 circlip grooves 8mm apart. Hence 350 mm - 24mm = 326 mm."

But still I cant figur out how to make my setting 355/345 yet

Cheers

Yeah I saw that post. I'm just after a straight forward answer as to what height each groove (on both front and rear shocks as it seems they are different) achieves.

I want to know what GROOVES the 350/340 standard setting are supposed to be in, and how to achieve 340/330 etc

[Fry_33]

Yeah I saw that post. I'm just after a straight forward answer as to what height each groove (on both front and rear shocks as it seems they are different) achieves.

I want to know what GROOVES the 350/340 standard setting are supposed to be in, and how to achieve 340/330 etc

This is in one of Gary's posts on page 4.

Note that standard height is 2 circlip grooves up from the standard circlip groove, ~350 mm is the standard circlip groove and 330 mm is 2/3 circlip grooves down from the standard groove. You can pick the standard groove as it has a yellow stripe accros it. Plus the circlip should be in that groove when you get the shocks.

The 'standard' groove (350/340) has the yellow stripe as it has been painted with the clip still there.

[Mike_GTS4]

This is in one of Gary's posts on page 4.

Note that standard height is 2 circlip grooves up from the standard circlip groove, ~350 mm is the standard circlip groove and 330 mm is 2/3 circlip grooves down from the standard groove. You can pick the standard groove as it has a yellow stripe accros it. Plus the circlip should be in that groove when you get the shocks.

The 'standard' groove (350/340) has the yellow stripe as it has been painted with the clip still there.

So this means,

Front Shock

Groove 1----( mm?)

Groove 2----( mm?)

Groove 3---- Clip (350mm, this is the standerd one with yellow stripe)

Groove 4----( mm?)

Groove 5----(330mm)

Groove 6-----( mm?)

Rear Shock

Groove 1-----( mm?)

Groove 2-----( mm?)

Groove 3---- Clip (340mm, this is the standerd one with yellow stripe)

Groove 4-----( mm?)

Groove 5-----( mm?)

Groove 6-----( mm?)

Now how can I acheive 355/345?

[Mike_GTS4]

Skykc,

I had the same situation, everyone keep saying to use R33 gtr front shocks for my gts4 as wel.Since I saw your post I download the full catalouge from Bilstein which clearly shows (http://www2.bilstein.de/downloads/Bilstein_Programm_05-GB.pdf) part number F4-B46-1873-HO is for r33 2WD, they didnt have any listing for r33 gts4 though.

I will be buying the whole package from sydneykid when whiteline springs are available for my gts4.Need to straighten up this confusin though.

*looks like there is no diffrent between r33 gtst and r33 gts4 then? I thought r33 gts4 front shocks are shoter than r33 gtst? anyone can clear this out?

[Fry_33]

So this means,

Front Shock

Groove 1----( mm?)

Groove 2----( mm?)

Groove 3---- Clip (350mm, this is the standerd one with yellow stripe)

Groove 4----( mm?)

Groove 5----(330mm)

Groove 6-----( mm?)

Rear Shock

Groove 1-----( mm?)

Groove 2-----( mm?)

Groove 3---- Clip (340mm, this is the standerd one with yellow stripe)

Groove 4-----( mm?)

Groove 5-----( mm?)

Groove 6-----( mm?)

Now how can I acheive 355/345?

That looks right to me, as far as I can figure out. I haven't installed mine yet.

I would think that to get the closest to 355/345 you'd be using groove 2 or 3. Groove 2 looks like it will give something like 360/350 and groove 3 the 350/340. Just remember the 350/340 settings are not set in concrete, this could vary slightly from car to car but should be very close to it. Clip grooves are 8mm apart but that doesn't mean the car height will be altered by exactly 8mm (anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

I will be trying groove 3 and see how that goes. It seems as though this is the settings most people are using so it should be fine.

Edited February 8, 2007 by Fry_33

[Eug]

Gary,

front camber kit wasnt included in my delivery. can you please check your dispatcher or invoice sheets.

cheers

eug

[Mike_GTS4]

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Edited February 9, 2007 by Mike_GTS4

[SkyKC]

Skykc,

I had the same situation, everyone keep saying to use R33 gtr front shocks for my gts4 as wel.Since I saw your post I download the full catalouge from Bilstein which clearly shows (http://www2.bilstein.de/downloads/Bilstein_Programm_05-GB.pdf) part number F4-B46-1873-HO is for r33 2WD, they didnt have any listing for r33 gts4 though.

I will be buying the whole package from sydneykid when whiteline springs are available for my gts4.Need to straighten up this confusin though.

*looks like there is no diffrent between r33 gtst and r33 gts4 then? I thought r33 gts4 front shocks are shoter than r33 gtst? anyone can clear this out?

Hi Mike

Gary said F4-B46-1873-HOis the correct shock for r33 gts4, if that the case there are no different between R33 gtst and gts4 front shocks.local tech in Blacktown syas this one is wrong for my car, Im really confused actually, but Gary will clear this up im sure. still waiting on some more parts from him, unitl then cant install it.

Cheers

[WTF-33R]

will these fit an R33 S2 4 door? or coupe only?

[Sydneykid]

will these fit an R33 S2 4 door? or coupe only?

Both 2 door and 4 door.

cheers

[Sydneykid]

I just re read through the entire 12 pages of this thread, and still couldnt find a post explaining the height that relates to each groove....I know everyones saying that the shocks come in the 350/340mm position, but wouldn't it be a hell of a lot easier if we knew the height each groove acheived?

Both my front and rear shocks have the circlip in the groove 3rd from the bottom. HKS-R33 has told me his are installed at 340/330, and that his circlips are in the following positions:

Rear: Second from the bottom (1 below where mine are now)

Front: Third from the bottom (same as mine)

He tells me he had to have the height re adjusted after getting it wrong the first time, so you'd assume he got it right the second time...and the photo of his car above do seem to sit lower than most, and very even...

Could we please hear the height acheived by each groove (for both front and rear) and which grooves the circlips SHOULD be in out of the box for 350/340? I think it would clear it up for everyone very simply.

Also this post

Has anyone lowered it to the ~340/~330 height with 1 rear camber kit?

All the info is in this thread.

The Bilsteins come with the circlips in the recommended height groove (eg; 355/345).

The grooves are 8 mm apart

The wheel to shock travel is 1 to 1, so 8 mm at the shock = 8 mm at the wheel

Hence if you want 355 mm front, then don't move the circlips

If you want 347 mm then go down 1 groove (8mm)

Always remember every car is different.

You will get excessive rear camber at 330 mm with 1 rear camber kit. You will need 2 rear camber kits if you want to go that low. Which isn't recommended, as it results in noticeably decreased ride comfort and poorer handling. So if you go that low, you are doing it for looks only.

Cheers

[85URK]

Getting mine done this week.

cant wait.

Edited February 12, 2007 by 85URK

[Eug]

we had to use the tops off the old dust covers to fill a gap on the struts. anyone else had this issue?

other than that - i gave it a good solid run through some nice roads and the comfort vs. handling factor is amazing.

definately some solid engineering behind the re-valving and setup.

just waiting on the front camber bits and hopefully i can get the rest put in and re-aligned.

cheers gary!!

[SkyKC]

Hi Guys,

Just need to know where I can get these installed in NSW? and how much normaly cost?

i)Bilstein front and rear shocks + whiteline springs +standerd strut tops + Bump and dust covers

ii)Whiteline Front and rear camber kits and front caster kit

iii)Wheel alingment

I got a quate from East Coast Suspensions as followes, is that the normal price for installation?

*To fit your springs & shocks , plus front camber & caster kit would cost $450.00.

*To fit the rear camber kit to the upper outer pivot points (ie. in the

upright would cost an additional $135.00.

*For Front & rear wheel alignment ( full adjust ) is $165.00.

Where did you guiys got these installed and for how much?

Cheers