Stagea Group Buy Whiteline & Bilstein

[Sydneykid]

For the guys that have been patiently waiting for their kits, please check your PM's for the latest update.

For those that haven't yet ordered their kits (or parts) most items are in stock at Bilstein and Whiteline now. There are only a limited number of Bilsteins on the next airfreight shipment, then there will be no stock until after Xmas.

So get in now.

cheers

Edited November 3, 2005 by Sydneykid

[StageZilla]

WOOO HOOO!! cheers gary, now to dump my stagea and show some piccies, i cant wait

[AMS]

Piccies! Woot! When should you have it installed?

[rodd]

Hi SK, glad to see the but is still active- I wopuld like to order the following;

Whiteline Springs $288

Bilstein Shocks $952

Rear Adj Stabiliser Bar $219

Front bar $194

Castor Front $110

Sub frame Alignment $105

Camber Full Set $395

That all comes to $2263, with a 5% discount and freight free, I make that a total of $2149.85. Please confirm your bank details are the same for me to tranfer the funds; this is a good deal!

[Sydneykid]

Hi SK, glad to see the but is still active- I wopuld like to order the following;

Whiteline Springs  $288

Bilstein Shocks      $952

Rear Adj Stabiliser Bar  $219

Front bar                  $194

Castor Front              $110

Sub frame Alignment  $105

Camber Full Set          $395

That all comes to $2263, with a 5% discount and freight free, I make that a total of $2149.85. Please confirm your bank details are the same for me to tranfer the funds; this is a good deal!

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PM sent, and thanks I did try to get the very best deal I could.

cheers

[StageZilla]

my kit arrived today but i wasnt home to collect it so now its at the "TOLL Express" depo about 100km from my house, so im picking it up tommorow afternoon, and ive decided ill sort the rebuild before i install the suspension, as the car is sitting on my driveway atm and the shocks etc will go rusty and shit by the time i get it moving again hehe.

so to be safe ill say end of january 2006 i will be driving around and have the new suspension fitted

[Burns]

Mine all arived this arvo. I will have a go at puting it in over the weekend.

Thanks SK

[StageZilla]

picked mine up this arvo woohoo, cheers gary

[Burns]

I have got myself a bit confused with the assembly of the springs on the shocks.

I can’t work out what springs are for the front and what are for the rear and what end is the top and bottom of them. Nether seem to fit quite rite in the lower spring seats.

I have a set of stock Stagea rear shocks that came with the car but not the front. I have teni coil overs in it at the moment.

Can I use a set R33 GTS-t shocks as donors for the upper spring seats or do I need to find some stock R33 GTR or Stagea shocks to use?

Edited November 11, 2005 by Burns

[muck]

i attempted putting them on my car the last 2 days... and got severly confused also....

the fatter springs (ones pictured left) matched the stock front springs.. but didnt match the lower spring seat that came with the front shockers(smaller ring).. it did match the rear spring seat tho....

and the thinner springs ( ones pictured right) matched the stock rear springs... but didnt match the lower spring seat (bigger ring) that came with the rear shockers...

the flat side on the rear springs we had on the top.......

anyway.... my car ended up 630mm down from 660mm on the back using the highest setting on the shocks....... so i think ive done something wrong......

dodgy photos came from my phone as i didnt have a camera on me in the garage..

[AlexCim]

WOW muck, thats LOW!

Maybe we could meet up some time, id love to feel if there is any improvement over std springs and shocks.

[AMS]

:lol: I love it Muck...Go team red!

[muck]

unfortunately.. its much too low for me to be functional........

atm the front is sitting 690mm... and the lowest we could prolly get it is 670mm......

back to the 660 that i started with would be ideal... unfortunately.. i cant seem to get that with this setup....

alex... sure thing mate... we can organise something.. the car is still in the garage.. i think theres something wrong with my install.... it seems insanely low at the back at the highest setting... ill let u know once we sort it out..

it does look pretty nice that low tho... shame i cant even get the front that dumped.. for a full photo.. looks pretty stupid atm....

[AlexCim]

You have a hoist in your garage? GROUP BUY for time at your place!

Anyway, to me the way you have set up the struts looks ok. From other installs ive done i would guess that the big short springs sit in the front and the thinner taller ones in the rear.

Do you mind if you get me some measurments from centre of wheel to gaurd rather then ground to gaurd?

If you need a hand or anything in your garage give me a call or pm as ive started uni holidays now so I have heaps of free time.

BTW, did you get the whole setup? Id love to see how the subframe bushes etc are installed and could help you out with the swaybars (already installed them)

[StageZilla]

so to install these, do i have to use my original shocky dust covers? cause my originals are buggered and torn

so the spring bottom seat goes on first, then the little gold cover thing on the top of the shock, then what? need pics

i started mine the other day and snapped the end off the old shock trying to undo the top locknut B) someone over tightened em when the apexi springs were put in japan :lol:

someone post some detailed pics of the assembly of the coilovers piece by piece plz

i can do a rb26/manual/gtr diff install but cant work out the simple coilovers haha

if i have to buy new dust covers how much are they new from nissan, anyone know?

cheers

Brad

Edited November 12, 2005 by StageZilla

[rodd]

<_< Jeez Brad, I hope you get this sorted; with all your experience and work so far, for you to be a bit stumped , I don't give myself much of a chance to sort out the new system- I have sent payment through to SK, so I can only hope that it gets a bit clearer before my parts arrive, else I reckon I'll be stuck too! Regards, Rodd.

[Burns]

Friging rear sway bar won’t fit ether. It seems like it is about an inch too short.

When lined up at one end it is too short to allow the mounts to fit on at the other end.

I can’t move the mounts any further along the bar.

Having the links on the softest setting also seems to put them on a strange angle that will twist and distort the bushes.

The smaller spring fits ok but not perfectly onto the rear shock but the bigger spring has too big a diameter to fit on the front lower spring seat.

Edited November 12, 2005 by Burns

[Burns]

Brad you can get universial bump stops and dust covers from whiteline or through SK the part number is W021 they are around 60 for 2.

[Sydneykid]

Hi guys, sorry I have been away from my computer for a couple of days, I will try and sort out the confusion;

1, The front spring part number is 83159

2. The rear pring part number is 70191

If you have already taken them out the box don't worry. The part numbers are printed on the white tags stuck onto the last coil. The are production numbers 20191 and 23159. Logically 20191 = 70191 = rear and 23159 = 83159 = front.

I have taken a few pictures to help;

The most confusion seeams to be the rear springs so I will start there;

The spings have a tag on them like this with the above part number on it. It is usually on the top of the rear spring;

The first job is to fit the shock top protector, this gives the bump stop something flat to hit against. It is a tight fit so tap it on with a rubber or plastic hammer;

The bottom of the rear spring looks like this;

The rear Bilstein bottom spring seat looks like this, Some guys have put it on upside down, it goes on with the machined side downwards. You can see the groove for the circlip to fit into. The spring fits onto the spring seat and should look like this;

The top standard rubber fits onto the top of the spring like this. Don't worry it looks funny, but when you bolt in all together its OK.

The standard bump stop and dust cover go on like this, slide it down to the step in shock shaft;

Then install the stepped collar, like this;

The steel bump stop retainer goes on next;

Then the rubber mount, this way up

Then the top steel mount;

Then the top rubber, the cup washer and the nut;

Hope that is of some help, I will work though the other questions in following posts

cheers

Edited June 18, 2006 by Sydneykid

[Sydneykid]

Hi guys I wil try and answer the stabiliser questions in this post.

The angle of the adjustable link rod is OK, it is totally normal for adjustable stabilsier bars. The polyurethane bushes are designed to handle it.

Whiteline makes the stabiliser bars as a copy of the standard bar shape. The extra diameter of the bar means that the dimensions have to change. The most critical is the total width, usually measured to the insides of the arms. It should be 1045 mm (+ or - 5mm) for the Stagea rear, picture follws;

The next critical measurement is the inside of the U bend, it should be 855mm (+ or - 3mm), measured by sliding the D bushes as far out as they will go and still remain parrallel; picture follws;

I have seen a few bars where the bending machine was set for outside dimensions on the U bend, like the one above. This means they are 16mm (8 mm X 2) too narrrow accross the U bend ie; around 840 mm.

Please measure your bar, if it is around 840 mm (not 855 mm) then I will have to get Whiteline to replace your stabiliser bar. The manufacturing lead time is normally 4 to 5 working days, plus 1 or 2 days shipping. Since this is a faulty part replacement I may be able to get them to do it faster. Please PM and I will arrange it for you.

Hope that was of some help

cheers

Edited June 18, 2006 by Sydneykid