Stagea Group Buy Whiteline & Bilstein

[Burns]

Thanks for that Gary the rear goes together fine I just thought the bigger front spring was actually the rear.

The front spring seem to big to sit on the lower spring seat I assume the end that tapers in is the bottom but I looks like the spring will push it's self over the seat when any pressure is put on it.

I will measure the bar and let you know how I go

Edited November 12, 2005 by Burns

[Sydneykid]

Thanks for that Gary the rear goes together fine I just thought the bigger front spring was actually the rear. 

The front spring seem to big to sit on the lower spring seat I assume the end that tapers in is the bottom but I looks like the spring will push it's self over the seat when any pressure is put on it.

I will measure the bar and let you know how I go

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yep I was worried the first time I did mine, but I compared it to the standard spring and bottom spring seat and they were the same. Refer to the following picture;

I have had mine in for around 5,000 k's so far and no problems.

The standard front springs have rubber squeak stoppers on the last coil, if it is in good condition you may want to transfer it over to the Whiteline coils. It may help with squeaks, although I don't have any, but it will fill up some of the space and help centre the coil. Just slice it around the inside diameter, carefully peal it off and then put some glue on it to hold it onto the Whiteline coil,

Cheers

Edited June 18, 2006 by Sydneykid

[muck]

You have a hoist in your garage? GROUP BUY for time at your place!

Anyway, to me the way you have set up the struts looks ok. From other installs ive done i would guess that the big short springs sit in the front and the thinner taller ones in the rear.

Do you mind if you get me some measurments from centre of wheel to gaurd rather then ground to gaurd?

If you need a hand or anything in your garage give me a call or pm as ive started uni holidays now so I have heaps of free time.

BTW, did you get the whole setup? Id love to see how the subframe bushes etc are installed and could help you out with the swaybars (already installed them)

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

hey alex, unfortunately im not lucky enough to have a hoist in my garage

i just use the hoist in the workshop.. which i call the garage

the car is actually on the hoist with half the suspension off... hopefully it will be all good tomorrow.. good thing the shocks come out very easily.. so its not too much of a stress moving everything around....

i didnt get teh camber kits... as i wasnt going to drop teh car that serverely....

[StageZilla]

ok heres a few pics of the springs/shocks installed, no bushed as yet, and the back is 300mm from wheel centre to gaurd, and front is currently 360mm at the front cause its engineless hehe.

the rears still have 2 grooves lower to go and fronts have 3 grooves lower as well.

once the engines in it will look perfect i reckon, and then the r34 brembo calipers and dba alloy rotors will top it off

cheers

Brad

[Sydneykid]

Well done Brad.

For the other guys, please remember that Brad has extra, extra grooves, for achieving show height, not driving around height.

cheers

[AMS]

Looking good Brad B)

[StageZilla]

Well done Brad.

For the other guys, please remember that Brad has extra, extra grooves, for achieving show height, not driving around height.

cheers

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

well thats very true at the moment, cause without the bushes in, i tried to push the car out the way of the garage entrance (because we are getting a new garage door installed tomorrow) and it would not budge, i thought brakes were stuck, but no its the bloody rims hitting the coilovers

wrong bloody offset, now im gonna need new rims, because ill have to have it at stock height to clear the coilvers with these rims hopefully the bushes pull the top of the wheel out towards the gaurd enough, but i doubt it cause it is touching on heaps of the tyre

damn i didnt want to have to spend more $$$ atm... except on the engine is ok hehe B)

heres 2 pics i just took of it sitting on the ground, coilover is resting on the tyre.

[AlexCim]

Oh, nuts!

Maybe ill leave getting new rims until i get my suspension sorted then...

Good luck mate, dont worry, she'll have 600hp to compensate for the rims

[Burns]

Would R33 GTS-t front shock be suitable to use as donors for the upper spring seats?

I don’t have the stock shocks from my car and it would probably be cheaper and easier to get hold of some stock GTS-t shocks rather than GTR or Stagea parts.

[AlexCim]

If you get stuck, i know TypeM in dandenong have a stagea front cut there.

They normally have pretty expensive parts, but if you get desperate give them a call....

Type M Imports

14 Glomar Crt Dandenong South 3164

(03) 9793 0235

Mobile Service 0412 351 454

I asked 2-3 weeks ago if they had a stagea front bar there, they said they did but i am wondering now if its a DAYZ or a regular, because they wanted ~300 for it and if its a DAYZ, i think ill get it right away. So yeh, ill be calling tomorrow anyway, ill ask for you too.

[AlexCim]

Damn! Someone took the front bar, BUT, the two front struts are $140 each... DAYMN!

[darrinspencer]

wrong bloody offset, now im gonna need new rims, because ill have to have it at stock height to clear the coilvers with these rims hopefully the bushes pull the top of the wheel out towards the gaurd enough, but i doubt it cause it is touching on heaps of the tyre

What is the width and offset of your rims and tyre size, just so we all do not have the same problem

Thanks

[-FUZZY-]

Do u know if they have any dash parts alex??

i need the part that goes around the cup holders, as some nice f*ktard broke it somewhere between the auction and it arriving to me.

(if anyone else has one let me know as well, and what ur after for it .... otherwise l think l might start looking for a CF-look dash from yahoo jp)

Edited November 15, 2005 by [ STAGEN ]

[AlexCim]

Give them a call, its a front cut so they could possible help you out

[StageZilla]

What is the width and offset of your rims and tyre size, just so we all do not have the same problem

Thanks

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

hey darrin, im unsure of the offset, and even width as i havent measured them, and they came with the car.

how do i measure the offset, anyone care to explain?

cheers

Brad

Edited November 15, 2005 by StageZilla

[AlexCim]

From that picture above, i would say you want to move the wheel something like 20mm outwards...

Stick in your current 9 inch +38 dimensions and you can manipulate to suit as it gives the difference below

http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

I came up with 8 inchs wide with +32 will give 19mm more clearance for you

Have a look in this thread

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...92233&hl=offset

[StageZilla]

From that picture above, i would say you want to move the wheel something like 20mm outwards...

Stick in your current 9 inch +38 dimensions and you can manipulate to suit as it gives the difference below

http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

I came up with 8 inchs wide with +32 will give 19mm more clearance for you

Have a look in this thread

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...92233&hl=offset

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

thanks alex

well i installed one camber set on one side at the rear and it has pulled it out abit, just hoping the second camber set will be enough B)

i think the 9" wide rims are the problem

so if i goto 18" rims the offset reccomendations are still the same arn't they? and its only the width that changes the offset, correct?

will chuck the second camber kit in tomorrow arvo after work

cheers

Brad

[Burns]

I just put the rears in. It was a piss easy job to get the old coil overs out and the new Bilsteins in. I left them on the standard circlip groove 3rd from the bottom and it is sitting at about 330mm, probably a bit low so I will move them up a grove for a bit more height.

The only thing I wasn’t sure about was the bump stops. I didn’t trim them at all as SK had suggested. They didn’t look anything like the ones marked up for trimming so i wasnt sure how much to take off. It looks like it is just about sitting on the bump stops now.

Any tips on how long the bump stops should be and what end to trim?

I also assembled the fronts but didn’t put them in because the lower spring seat dose not look right at all. The spring seems too big and it is almost pushing over the spring seat. Im worried that the first bump I hit the spring will move a bit and push over the seat. Then I will be in all sorts of trouble.

[Sydneykid]

The rear bump stops can not be trimmed from the bottom as the dust cover would fall off.

So, as you can see from the above, it is trimmed from the top, the same as the front bump stop. If you are targetting 340 mm (or higher) then they don't need trimming at all.

This is a picture of the 83139/Bilstein installed in mine;

In comparison your front spring doesn't look right, the 83159 is a normal Whiteline spring for an R33GTR and the lower spring seat on the Bilstein is also the normal part number for an R33GTR. So they shoul fit together exactly as per the standard spring and standard shock, plus or minus a cfew mm for extra wire dimensions. Maybe check a few things;

The Whiteline front spring part number should be on the white tag, 23159.

The Bilstein lower spring seat part number is cast into it, E4 FT2-2003A01

The Whitleine coil should have a top ID of ~100 mm

The Whitleine coil should have a bottom ID of ~ 70 mm

Check those and let me know if you have different part numbers and/or dimensions. It has happened (not very often) that the wrong springs have been packed in the box, so the part numbers tag is the first place I would start.

Hope that was of some help

cheers

Edited June 18, 2006 by Sydneykid

[StageZilla]

hey SK, im after the dust cover/bumpstop kits for all 4 coilovers, so is that $214 for the lot? ill direct deposit soon as u confirm the amount

cheers

Brad