R32gtst Or R33 Gts25t For 26/31det ?

[discopotato03]

Hi all , I thought the R32 would be a good road car for a 3.1L but I'm beginning to think the R33's comes std with more of the right bits eg gearbox . The R33 PFC's are easier to get and std brakes are pretty fair ? I'm told the engine bay is not as "full" as an R32 so the spannering would be easier .

The thing I don't know is how much heavier the R33 is which of course relates to power to weight and fuel consumption . Handling wise whats the opinion of those who've spent a bit of time in both - road remember not circuit or drag .

Another thing is the R32GTR's had a wider rear track than the RWD car's , is it the same deal with R33GTS25T and R33GTR ?

I get the feeling that 33's have a greater following here and parts availability is a bit better .

A little voice keeps saying the 32 was the homologation special so what to do ?

Life is always at a crossroads , cheers A .

Edited September 11, 2005 by discopotato03

[predator]

I've owned both..

Take both for a drive in anger if you can.. and you'll know which one is better pretty quickly. The only weakness I see is the 2L, but with the engine swap, that fixes that.

You won't notice any fuel economy differences between R32 and R33.

As for working on? same really.. you can get to things under the r32 a bit easier. Thing like the oil and fuel filters are a bit harder to change, but in the scheme of things its not a massive disadvantage.

Also remember, whilst there may be slightly less R32 out there, if you are picking off the good parts from the r33 (diff, brakes, gearbox), just think how many wrecks and R33 you have to choose from

[TTT]

Hi all , I thought the R32 would be a good road car for a 3.1L but I'm beginning to think the R33's comes std with more of the right bits eg gearbox . The R33 PFC's are easier to get and std brakes are pretty fair ? I'm told the engine bay is not as "full" as an R32 so the spannering would be easier .

The thing I don't know is how much heavier the R33 is which of course relates to power to weight and fuel consumption . Handling wise whats the opinion of those who've spent a bit of time in both - road remember not circuit or drag .

Another thing is the R32GTR's had a wider rear track than the RWD car's , is it the same deal with R33GTS25T and R33GTR ?

I get the feeling that 33's have a greater following here and parts availability is a bit better .

A little voice keeps saying the 32 was the homologation special so what to do ?

Life is always at a crossroads , cheers  A .

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what a spin out..

my thoughts were pretty much in line with yours Discopotato... apart from the GR option.

I went a little further and picked Gary's (SydneyKid) brain for his thoughts on it..

this was a while back but here are the PM's...

I prefer to do all my rb30det plans to an R32.

I just prefer the shape.

but I can't help but wonder if it'd be easier in an R33.

the pro's of getting an R33 are growing.

1.) better standard brakes.

2.) PFC is cheaper.

3.) already has rb25 head

4.) already has tough gearbox.

5.) better diff? (not sure about this one)

6.) seems to be cheaper than R32's these days.

example.

http://pforums.company-hosting.com/forums/....php?t=67190623

already has pfc, intercooler, some whiteline bits...blah blah blah.. for $15K

Sure the shape is kinda ugly but it can be fixed.

I know you also love the R32 shape.

but apart from the extra 70 odd kg over the R32 and the looks, is there any reason why the r32 is a better idea?

both cars will end up having a new engine so reliability is not such a big issue.

but the bonus of the gearbox and head already being on there are big points to consider..

what are your thoughts?

Hi, it's a tough call between the R33 and the R32. Other than appearance, the extra weight is the only thing that you can't fix. Everything else is a matter of bolt on bolt off. The R33 is easier that's for sure, and it may even be worth more after the RB30DET is in there.

The only things I can add are;

The R33GTST brakes are no better than the R32GTST M Spec.

You can use an R33GTST PFC in an R32GTST.

The HICAS is much easier to remove and saves more weight on an R32.

R32 parts/panels are cheaper

The R32 GTST M Spec diff is the same as the R33GTST except it is a lower ratio (better acceleration)

so looks, weight, parts, and diff ratio are the down sides to the R33.

higher diff ratio would be my preference with an RB30det in there.

parts and panels... hmm.. I assumed that there are so many more R33's out there that it would be same or even cheaper than R32 panels.

I thought the brake discs in the R33 were slightly larger in diameter.. I must be thinking of it as in comparison to the 200sx's.

Hicas is a good point..

The more I think about it, the more I think the R33 is a better choice.

I'm not one for having a rare car or anything so having something common might prevent theft..

and the fact that it comes with the head and rb25 gearbox and taller diff ratio which I kinda prefer, it is looking more and more like I might end up being a whale owner.

I don't find the R32GTST diff too short, with the 4.363 diff ratio, 245/45/17 tyres and 8,000 rpm rev limit, it still tops out at 285 kph. I don't think I want to go any faster than that.

So there you go.

maybe it'll help you out a little.

consider the costs of gearbox and head and ECU etc..

and the fact that a 1992 r32 gtst is now more expensive than most 1993 R33 gtst