The "cage" Is Not All

[Guest two.06l]

Yes ANDRA tech regulations require a approved welded in roll cage

but contrary to popular belief......the cage is only one of the requirements

Personal

Full FIA approved race suit

flame retardent undergarments (socks, pants, shirt and balaclava)

ANDRA approved helmet

FIA race boots

Arm restraint/or window net

ANDRA UDL licence

total cost...between $2500-$3500

Vehicle

Roll cage

FIA approved race harness (seat belts)

Belhousing sheild

harmonic balancer shield/or billet steel item fitted

tailshaft loop/loops

rear firewall (if boot mounted fuel system)

battery isolation switch

open ended wheel nuts

ANDRA tech inspection

total cost...between $3500-$4000

So its more than a cage and costs between $6000-$8000 to comply

Sick of reading that people got booted because they didnt have a "cage"

PAUL

DiRTgarage

SORRY STACE LOGGED IN AS YOU

[TommO]

You have to do ALL of that if you run a 9.99 - 10.99 second pass ?

I was aware of a lot of those requirements, but I always say "without a cage", because thats the primary reason most people never do all of the stuff above, as a cage would be very hard for them to own a car with... the other stuff wouldn't effect it.

However, next time I'll make sure I write.... "Hey got booted for ....." and write all your replies

[Guest two.06l]

You have to do ALL of that if you run a 9.99 - 10.99 second pass ?

I was aware of a lot of those requirements, but I always say "without a cage", because thats the primary reason most people never do all of the stuff above, as a cage would be very hard for them to own a car with... the other stuff wouldn't effect it.

However, next time I'll make sure I write.... "Hey got booted for ....." and write all your replies

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Not complying....simple

PAUL

DiRTgarage

SORRY STACE, LOGGED IN AS YOU

[TommO]

Yep, that's correct.

Thanks for the information anyway... I knew there was much more to it but didn't know the exact specs (as I don't have a 10 second car)

[Guest two.06l]

Yep, that's correct.

Thanks for the information anyway... I knew there was much more to it but didn't know the exact specs (as I don't have a 10 second car)

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i wish it was just a cage......would have been cheaper

you see my point though...you always hear..."oh he didnt have a cage" generally from people who dont know the rules, or are ignorant to them. Was not trying to put you in your place ThommO just making you and other readers aware that theres more to it than the cage.

PAUL

DiRTgarage

SORRY STACE, LOGGED IN AS YOU

[TommO]

Yeah, fair enough Defintely something to be aware of...

Kinda harsh though hey, bloody expensive hobby isn't it !!! But I guess they are looking after you.

[ido09s]

Stace, with your bellhousing shield did you get the blanket or the scatter sheild?

[Guest DIRTgarage]

Stace, with your bellhousing shield did you get the blanket or the scatter sheild?

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Hi Brad....sorry for the mistake...its Paul. We got the blanket....but should be called scatter shield..as its got cat guts all over it!

[Guest DIRTgarage]

Yeah, fair enough   Defintely something to be aware of...

Kinda harsh though hey, bloody expensive hobby isn't it !!!   But I guess they are looking after you.

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As well as fellow competitors and spectators

expensive hobby all right...

[ido09s]

Hi Brad....sorry for the mistake...its Paul. We got the blanket....but should be called scatter shield..as its got cat guts all over it!

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Hey Paul, that just proves it's street driven It's a big step from the 11's to 10's, we are going to have to decide if we are going to want to race often enough to justify all the gear for tech inspection or just run the time once.

[wrxkilla]

plus what is the threshold for having a chute?

anything over 130mph you have to have a chute dont you?

michael

[TommO]

Over 140mph you require a chute

[ido09s]

plus what is the threshold for having a chute?

anything over 130mph you have to have a chute dont you?

michael

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140mph

[wrxkilla]

ah ok, thanks for confirming that.

as that may be somehting Paul will have to add to his list.

mick

[Guest DIRTgarage]

ah ok, thanks for confirming that.

as that may be somehting Paul will have to add to his list.

mick

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dont think that our set-up will run 140MPH...but we do have 6psi of boost up our sleeve....just in case we need to use it. The boost gives us another 40kw at the treads

[wrxkilla]

are you willing to tell us your goals atm paul for Jambo?

your aiming on competing with Theo & Mark Jacobson?

mid 9s?

i hear Mark has made some more improvements and is wanting low 9s from jambo.

michael

[Guest DIRTgarage]

are you willing to tell us your goals atm paul for Jambo?

your aiming on competing with Theo & Mark Jacobson?

mid 9s?

i hear Mark has made some more improvements and is wanting low 9s from jambo.

michael

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The car wont go any quicker than it has before at jambo. I am running a conservative setup as I only need to make top 16. Yes, i wont be aiming to compete with mark and theo, i will be competing with them. As the elimination is on a DYO handicapped system all cars in top 16 are on a level playing field. No point running the cars guts out in eliminators. Ill be shooting for 9's at the SAU drag day.

[wrxkilla]

ah yep no worries, yeah i thought you was coming up here aiming for 9s.

coolio.

yeah its a bit easier to run consistant 10s than consistant 9s

michael

[Guest DIRTgarage]

ah yep no worries, yeah i thought you was coming up here aiming for 9s.

coolio.

yeah its a bit easier to run consistant 10s than consistant 9s

michael

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Its smarter to use the rules to your advantage.....as silly as they may be

[MrBlonde]

Yes ANDRA tech regulations require a approved welded in roll cage

but contrary to popular belief......the cage is only one of the requirements

Personal

Full FIA approved race suit

flame retardent undergarments (socks, pants, shirt and balaclava)

ANDRA approved helmet

FIA race boots

Arm restraint/or window net

ANDRA UDL licence

total cost...between $2500-$3500

Vehicle

Roll cage

FIA approved race harness (seat belts)

Belhousing sheild

harmonic balancer shield/or billet steel item fitted

tailshaft loop/loops

rear firewall (if boot mounted fuel system)

battery isolation switch

open ended wheel nuts

ANDRA tech inspection

total cost...between $3500-$4000

So its more than a cage and costs between $6000-$8000 to comply

Sick of reading that people got booted because they didnt have a "cage"

PAUL

DiRTgarage

SORRY STACE LOGGED IN AS YOU

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Yep, that's it. The only thingI would add is that you can get a four point rollbar in place of the six point rollcage which is good to 10.000. For a regularly street driven car this might be a lot easier to get away with.