V8 twin tirbo 33 skyline.

[ricknismo]

Do ya reckon QLD would allow that?????????????

[Guest Miles B]

Any updates ?!!?

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Sorry Miles, I've been very slack, I'll find out what's happening to it. It should be in HPI in a future mag:D

See'ya:burnout:

[Therapy?]

Guys, Silver Bullet Performance from down the south coast of nsw recently built a twin turbo 1200kw VH45DE for a drag car. According to the guy who screwed it all together they are quite a strong V8, and they were able to pull about 750kw out of it NA as well.

[Xeron]

Well a stock BB 502 chev from GM puts out, 502hp/373kw. A bit of boost or some n/a work and ur giggling

Mind you, people run n/a 6's with those 422ci C5R race blocks, and there pretty much the same weight/dimensions as an ls1. Pitty bout the price

[B6Tmeteor]

Can you guys tell me what trans you are using/plan to use with the 1uz?

Sticking with an auto or a manual conversion? If so what?

Thanks...

[Guest Miles B]

1000hp out of it NA? I think someone is pulling your leg. Very very hard, unless they were running nitromethane or something.

B6: he is using an auto (not stock). I am hoping to swap my A340 auto for a R154 manual off either a TT Soarer or a 'A70 Supra. People say the bellhousing shape is the same! I'll believe it when I see it, otherwise it will be a messy conversion. I am aiming for a reliable 400rwkw. T72 ball bearing running about 15psi on 98 RON.

GTST: I forgot to ask where you guys got the headgaskets from... Oh, and, you're shitting me - a car with good modifications, done in Australia (not just arriving on the car) in HPI? That's got to be a first.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Miles,

Being sarcastic? This car has a two speed auto, from a US drag car, using a 4000rpm hi-stall I think.

See'ya:burnout:

[Guest Miles B]

sarcastic?? huh?

[GTS-t VSPEC]

The car has already been featured in HPI once, but due to this dramatic change in engine it's being featured again.

See'ya:burnout:

[Guest Miles B]

aaaahhhhh gotcha. nah I'm just sick of seeing the following 2 kinds of articles in HPI:

1. I got this car from Japan, I don't know what's inside the engine but it goes real fast. I put in a new stereo.

2. Here is a car in Japan, built by a Japanese garage, and we don't have many details on what's in the engine.

To me, that magazine is very light on technical detail. I always end up walking away from it going "well I didn't see much special for my 10 bucks". Hardly any "wow, that's something new" (like your supra) or "so THAT'S how they do that". Standard article is like "blah blah Supra popular in Japan, this one handles great, goes real fast, built by this guy who runs this shop here, and he's really cool.. oh, the car had a big turbo, IC and injectors". In the end I just get to hear about how the guy who wrote the article went to Japan and toured some shops and drove fast cars... not much that really benefits me....

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Miles,

Read ZOOM if you want more technical articles, but let's not get off-topic here:D

See'ya:burnout:

[Guest jzz30]

Miles B

A turbo setup won't fit in a UZZ3* soarer (soarer v8) engine bay

the engine bay of a v8 soarer is quite cramped as it is, you will have to supercharge.. check out www.planetsoarer.com for supercharged V8 soarers.

IMHO its best to go with the TT.. better brakes diff driveline and engine is already blown

[Guest Miles B]

jzz30: thank you for your advice but I have done my research. I also have a UZZ31 sitting in my garage.

Yes. It is possible to fit a turbo in. There are two main alternatives:

1) 2 small turbos mounted low, possibly on cut stock headers. Disadvantage: low power gain.

2) Move the battery and fuse box to the trunk. Probably change the hydraulic pump powered fan to an electric fan. Now there is plenty of room for a big turbo, and a good 6 inches between the back of the fan and the front of the engine pulleys.

On the other hand you have supercharging. With a twin screw blower on top of the engine, you have no intercooling. You have to go for the (IMHO) inferior water or alcohol injection, and hit maybe 8 or 10 psi tops. With a centrifugal, like a Novi, you move the battery and it fits right there perfectly, with plenty of clearance for the extra pulley and belt. I think this is the setup Area 51 went for in the states, and it worked quite well. I just prefer turbo... you can manage your boost a lot better.

The supercharger being developed by Andy/Peter on planetsoarer is good for the money - around 60 or 70 kW gain.. but I am after a lot more. Just because it hasn't been done, doesn't mean it's impossible. You want a tight bay, look under the hood of a 300ZX. And they get 2 turbos in there!

IMHO it's best to go with the V8 LTD. It has all the interior options I want, and a bigger engine to boost - more power off lower boost. Also, it's something different - anyone can slap a T04 on a 1JZ...

[Xeron]

1000hp n/a is very possible. U can get real close for under AUS$25k to a chev, so it would be more than possible with the soarer v8 with enough money.

[Guest Miles B]

The compression and rev limit would have to be out of this world. With only 4 litres of fuel/air to draw in per 2 revolutions, there is a shortage of actual chemical energy... unless you run it at like 10k RPM+.

For street motors, the biggest N/A chevs I have seen are the Lingenfelters.. they only make about 700, with stroker kits. I would guess you are talking pure drag motor.. and probably a big block running methanol or something that detonates less readily under higher compression? Also, remember even the small block chevs start at 5.7 litres. That's almost 50% bigger than a Soarer motor. I would be absolutely astounded to see a street chev n/a making close to 1000hp. Even just as a drag motor, rebuilt often, that would be impressive.

Take for example the Viper engine. Similar to a small block chev (single cam, 2 valve), except it is 488ci - thats 8 litres. The Team Oreca Viper GTSR only made around 800hp. Guys building up drag Vipers in the states hit around 800hp with 500ci stroked/bored. I don't see how it would be possible to get 1000hp out of a 4 litre V8 on petrol.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Xeron,

I'd have to agree with Miles, unless your using Methanol there is no chance of that sort of power. My mates with the twin-turbo 1UZ have run a 8.5sec pass( first ever run), but are having some issues with internals. This is better than there previous best of 8.9 from a big-block chev running methanol.

See'ya:burnout:

[Guest Miles B]

8.5! Any idea what sort of boost they get up to before the internals give up? I am thinking the rods and maybe pistons are the weaker links.. the rods are forged, but I heard they are made by some wierd process using powdered metal?? Seems like the 2JZ, although smaller, is stronger. But then, it's smaller I have heard the stock 2JZ can stand up to over 20 psi if intercooled and fueled properly.. hoping the 1UZ can hold 16 to 18 for a year or so.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Miles,

They already had forged everything already in it, but in a drag car making over 1000bhp things have a way of breaking. I think they were running a conservative 16psi. They are building it stronger now, they are hoping to move into the 7's with it.

See'ya:burnout:

[GTS-t VSPEC]

BTW, an update on the Supra with the 1UZ in it. Today we destroyed the T78 turbo. Must have been on it's way out from when it was on the 2JZ. Another 700hp turbo is being ordered.

See'ya:burnout: