Intercooler Piping

[crack]

has anyone seen this before? surely it is the longest way to do it.

clicky clicky

[Eug]

dusnt matter how big teh turbo is... its not a gtr

wierd piping...z

[Lazy-Bastard]

Quick calculations would suggest that the piping configuration has an extra 45° bend over your standard 'up and across the radiator fan' config. I am only counting the bends on the outlet piping here, and assuming most people use the factory route for the inlet (to the cooler) piping.

Cooler to TB piping only:

The config in that pic has 1 x 180°, 4 x 90° and 1 x 45° bends = Total of 585°

Routing between engine and radiator fan has 6 x 90° bends = Total of 540°

Routing back to the factory locations has 1 x 180°, 2 x 90° and 4 x 45° bends = Total of 540° (well mine does anyway)

So the piping in that pic does have more bends than most layouts but whether or not the lenght of piping used is more or less is difficult to guess. I suspect when you add it all up there isn't much difference (length wise) between the 3 setups.

I have no idea what the laws of physics say about pushing air around a 180° bend as opposed to a 90° one but surely the sum of all the bends must have some bearing on velocity of the air and lag/throttle response etc.

[MSPEC]

Seems like a bad idea, it’s good to have a straight pipe off the plenum so there is a nice line of air backed up waiting to be pushed through once the butterfly is opened.

[WazR32GTSt]

makes it nice and difficult to change his oil filter.. why bother? other ways work fine...

[browny]

Seems like a bad idea, it’s good to have a straight pipe off the plenum so there is a nice line of air backed up waiting to be pushed through once the butterfly is opened.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I don't get this, what do you mean?

[MSPEC]

Gives you more torque if you can queue up the air in a nice straight line.

[Oosh]

Every bend causes a slight pressure drop, additional length/volume detrimentally affects throttle response (NOT the same as lag), so yes that would be worse off. But by how much? Well not a lot, i think it looks quite neat and it gets extra point for being different.

[browny]

Gives you more torque if you can queue up the air in a nice straight line.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Why?

IMO the only real benefit of not having a bend in before the TB is to prevent any unusual flow patterns from messing with the distribution of air to each cylinder, and I tend to think this would be a small, if not negligible effect in the majority of situations. If you wanted to be pedantic, the safest bet would be to stick with the factory piping, as that's the only configuration thats had any real R&D.

I also don't understand your comments about air "backing up" at the throttle plate.

[MSPEC]

Don’t worry dude just stating an opinion, I don’t really care to discuss this boring topic in great detail. The standard setup is better I believe and it has a nice straight run off the throttle. If you like the windy piping in the Kermit car then cool, the difference it makes is insignificant anyway.

[MacGuyver]

I've seen a setup like that in a car before, very trippy. Don't know of any advantages/disadvantages of a setup like that though.

"Mmmm, unexplained bacon."

[thommo]

i'm guessing they took the piping that way due to clearance issues between the bonnet and the big fark off turbo.

not my idea of a well styled car, but interesting nevertheless...

[RACESPEC]

We have set them up like this

Thanks

Tarek

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