Boost Control Kit For Powerfc

[r33_racer]

Hey

I got the boost control kit. Now i got two leads for this...one for pressure sensor which plugs into the side of the powerfc itself...ok i get that, but what i cant figure out is where the hell the other plug from the solenoid itself goes into. it has a two pin plug on the end which looks very generic one spade facing vertical and the other horizontally, one above the other. I cannot for the life of me find a female plug for it to go into.

I figured since were using the powerfc ecu, you would plug the new solenoid into the original solenoids plug as it will get controlled by the ecu itself and not the avcr controller as it would if you had it stand alone.

the destructions are in ninja, i cant read it and i cannot find a eng version on the apexi americano site.

Can anyone help, who may have installed one themselves?

Cheers.

[r33_racer]

no one??

[ossie_21]

Just taking an absolute stab in the dark because I don't have one of these (but will be getting one), but is it something for the hand controller????? Just that if it is a boost controller I would imagine it to be adjusted with that.

Hopefully someone can help you properly though.

[r33_racer]

i know where your coming from, but im pretty sure there are no provisions for a plug on the hand controller itself.

Only thing i can think of is wiring up the apexi solenoid plug to the factory plug from factory solenoid.

On another note, just watched some oldschool bathurst moments from 1980's onwards, and go the skylines, 91' and 92' richards and skaife, won both years. Woot!

[operationsideways]

Yes, you are correct. This generic plugs doesn't mate up with anything. Just cut it off and wire the two wires into the plug for the stock boost controller that you need to disconnect and remove.

I fitted my power fc and boost control kit on Tuesday this week. All working perfect.

Cheers

[r33_racer]

sweet mate..cheers for that.

[Steve]

Bizaare, my solenoid just plugged into the factory connector...

[r33_racer]

ill check that...would make it even easier again.

[Sydneykid]

I get at least one PM every week asking how to connect up a Power FC Boost Control Kit (PFC BCK). So I decided to take a few pictures to kick this off, post them up and let others post up their connections.

The MAP sensor

As you can see there are 3 wires coming out of the MAP sensor;

Red = psotitive

Back = negative (earth)

Green = signal

There is also a vacuum connection, the black hose is connected to it in the picture and it has a small air filter (to keep crap out of the MAP sensor). There is a T piece at the end of the hose it can be plumbed into the vacuum circuit (usually in parallel to the standard MAP sensor).

The Solenoid;

As you can see there are 2 wires coming out of the Solenoid;

Pink = positive

Black = negative

This then plugs into the MAP sensor wiring harness via the generic black 2 pin plug. The wiring colours change through the plug;

Pink = Red

Black = Brown

The complete kit

The wiring from the MAP sensor and the Solenoid end up at one white 5 pin female plug which fits into the side of the Power FC.

So, does your PFC BCK look like this one? If not post up some pictures and let us know the wiring codes so that we can compare.

cheers

Edited October 16, 2005 by Sydneykid

[Steve]

SK, mine was different, the map sensor plugged into the power fc, the solenoid just plugged into the OEM harness in place of the OEM solenoid.

[paulr33]

thanks for pics, ok to add to powerfc faq?

[Sydneykid]

SK, mine was different, the map sensor plugged into the power fc, the solenoid just plugged into the OEM harness in place of the OEM solenoid.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What model of Skyline and PFC was that?

thanks for pics, ok to add to powerfc faq?

cheers

Edited October 16, 2005 by Sydneykid

[Steve]

it was a S1, early model power fc, cant rember which model exactly sorry.

[Godzilla in NY]

newbie saying hello and already bothering with questions...

Turns out these pics came in handy since I just picked uyp my boost kit testerday.

.....There is also a vacuum connection, the blck hose is connected to it in the picture and it has a small air filter (to keep crap out of the MAP sensor).  There is a T piece at the end of the hose it can be plumbed into the vacuum circuit (usually in parallel to the standard MAP sensor).

My solenoid pluged right in to the stock harness, I am reading vacuum and boost, but still working on setting up boost....

Am I supposed to run both the stock map sensor and the PFC boost kit map sensor?

I just unpluged the standard sensor and pluged that vacuum hose to the pfc sensor... is this wrong?

Thank you.

[Sydneykid]

newbie saying hello and already bothering with questions...

Turns out these pics came in handy since I just picked uyp my boost kit testerday.

My solenoid pluged right in to the stock harness, I am reading vacuum and boost, but still working on setting up boost....

Am I supposed to run both the stock map sensor and the PFC boost kit map sensor?

I just unpluged the standard sensor and pluged that vacuum hose to the pfc sensor... is this wrong?

Thank you.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

In order for this thread to solve the current confusion, we need to be specific. So I need to clarify a few points;

1. This is an R32GTR, correct?

2. The PFC BCK was #415-A001, correct?

3. You simply plugged the BKC solenoid plug (2 pin male) into the standard plug (2 pin female), replacing the standard solenoid, correct?

4. You did not use the BKC MAP sensor, correct?

5. You did not use the BKC wiring harness, correct?

My understanding is the standard MAP sensor on R32GTR's is 1.5 bar and the one supplied with the BKC kit is 2.5 bar (5 volt). So if you are running less than 1.5 bar the standard MAP sensor is OK, but if you are running over 1.5 bar then you need to use the BKC MAP sensor for the PFC and the standard MAP sensor to run the gauge in the dash.

cheers

[r33_racer]

my map sensor plugs into the powerfc pro with a 3 pin plug. The solenoid doesnt plug into anything. It has a generic two spade plug, on the end of the xtension lead. The wire colours are infact the same as in your photos. So yeh, it is different to yours, however it is on a different car with a different powerfc model. I will try the wiring of the solenoid lead to the OEM lead first and see what shows from that.

Cheers.

[benl1981]

How about on the R33 gtst - does it replace stock solenoid? If it does then the max boost you could get would be about 13-14psi right? Unless you reroute the lines like you do with the jaycar EBC

[Godzilla in NY]

In order for this thread to solve the current confusion, we need to be specific.  So I need to clarify a few points;

1. This is an R32GTR, correct?

2. The PFC BCK was #415-A001, correct?

3. You simply plugged the BKC solenoid plug (2 pin male) into the standard plug (2 pin female), replacing the standard solenoid, correct?

4. You did not use the BKC MAP sensor, correct?

5. You did not use the BKC wiring harness, correct?

My understanding is the standard MAP sensor on R32GTR's is 1.5 bar and the one supplied with the BKC kit is 2.5 bar (5 volt).  So if you are running less than 1.5 bar the standard MAP sensor is OK, but if you are running over 1.5 bar then you need to use the BKC MAP sensor for the PFC and the standard MAP sensor to run the gauge in the dash.

cheers

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

1. This is an R32GTR, correct? yes

2. The PFC BCK was #415-A001, correct? yes

3. You simply plugged the BKC solenoid plug (2 pin male) into the standard plug (2 pin female), replacing the standard solenoid, correct? yes, didn't use supplied vacuum hoses, just used the ones attached to the stock solenoid...is that ok?

My gtr was also missing the restrictor pill.....

4. You did not use the BKC MAP sensor, correct? I did use it and pluged it to the PFC. Don't I have to, to read boost through the hand controller?

5. You did not use the BKC wiring harness, correct? yes, I thought I had to, I don't remember if the BCK boost solenoid could plug directly in to the 2 pin female plug....

Thanks for your help.

oh btw....i'm only looking to boost about .90 bar as i'm still on the stock turbos.

Edited October 17, 2005 by Godzilla in NY

[paulr33]

What model of Skyline and PFC was that?

thanks for pics, ok to add to powerfc faq?

cheers

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Have added to powerfc faq, included wiring notes and photos. Thanks heaps.

Any chance for some notes on how to set the thing correctly and what the numbers mean on the right, cos I know this gets asked heaps by members trying to use the kit

[Godzilla in NY]

ok since I'm replying to my self... I hope it at least helps r33 racer

Well... it seems I have the Boost Control Kit wired correctly, except for the plumbing... This is what I'm still trying to work out.

I did some reading and found out I can't just swap boost solenoids.

My BCK boost solenoid did not have to get wired in to the pressure sensor wiring, it pluged in to a harness that pluged in to the factory solenoid plug.

here is something I found: (it's for the avcr, but the solenoid plumbing is the same)

got it from here:http://www.gtr.co.uk/html/docs/apexi_avc.zip

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This guide will contain some photos of the installation process, for ease of photography I will remove the induction kit and the top intercooler pipe.

It is a good idea to have a good look at what you are going to do before you start cutting things. Get it straight in your head where abouts you will be connecting to.

Making room.

This job would be a hell of a lot quicker if there was some space around the engine so step one for me was to make some space.

I removed the induction kit past the Airflow meters, the Intercooler feed pipes and the manifolds that the turbo outlets run from. This gave me a bit of elbowroom and made it a little bit clearer for some photos. If you are not documenting the steps, and now I have done it once, it can probably be done by just removing the pipe that connects the intercooler hard pipe (through the bodywork) to the turbo outlets. (The bit with TWIN TURBO written on it) this gives access to the front actuator.

The wastegate actuators look a little bit like a piston and are bolted onto the side of the turbo, there is a rod coming out of the unit connecting to the actuator arm (a bit like a push rod in a radio controlled car)

To find the connection points follow the pipes back from the actuators. This will lead you to a brass pipe that runs down the side of the engine behind all of the turbo outlet assembly. This pipe runs from the Plenum chamber around the back of the engine and then to where you can see it. Near the back turbo on the engine side there is a tee in the pipe which feeds the rear wastegate actuator, this should be removed and a new length of pipe put on to it. The other end of this plugs into the other end of the brass pipe near the front wastegate actuator. There should be a tee piece inserted into the pipe near where you will place your solenoid valve. This pipe then plugs into the NO port of the solenoid.

The COM port is fed from a pipe, which is run between the two wastegate actuators them selves. These are connected together and then teed off in a similar place to the NO pipe.

The point indicated on this picture feeds the NO port the other end of the STD pipe goes to the actuator and is re routed to the COM port line.

The COM side of the installation this plug fits to the rear wastegate actuator.

Next we need to fix the Pressure sensor to the fuel pressure regulator. The small pipe that goes to the fuel rail from the pressure regulator is a convenient place, so cut this and insert the tee piece. The pressure sensor is located on the fuse box cover and mounted like the instructions recommend (vertical) the filter was put in to the line and the unit screwed to the flexible fuse box cover. (Another plus with using this location is that it is fixed to the car on the pipe so you can’t remove the cover and then forget it.

The fixing location for the pressure sensor (with the filter fitted)

Note the Pressure sensor feed pipe with the Tee in.

You can now put the car back together.

The solenoid valve was located by the induction kit and mounted facing forwards.

Disabling factory boost.

The factory boost controller is located on the left-hand side of the bay by the fusebox. It is about 20mm in diameter with a length of around 40mm there is a plug going into it and two pipes, one on the side and one in the middle at the bottom.

This unit needs to be removed and the bottom taken off. There is a spring inside and this needs to be removed. (Unless your car has already been mapped to 1 bar then this will have been done)

Then put the unit back together and re mount it. The pipe with the yellow bar on it which mounts to the side of the unit needs to be plugged (push a screw into it) then the pipe is reconnected.

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I've been waiting for a reponse from someone else who claims there's an easier way that this, that would be able to keep the BCK boost solenoid near the stock location. I'll post back.

Edited October 20, 2005 by Godzilla in NY