More R31 Help Plz! :p

[racsov500]

Theres two types of limited edition R31s- the local spec GTS1s and GTS2s. They came with a 130kw RB30 (instead of 112kw) with unpgraded cam, extracorst and chip (I think). Also have very nice seats and steering wheel, LSD, and bilstein shocks. Each one there is only 200 made, and are a highly saught after collectors item. They are induvidually plated by SVD australia. The average person would loook twice at em though.

The white one is the GTS (1). The Red one is the GTS (2).

the GTSR is an import coupe, which only a few hundered were made. They have a few extra things on them, including the RB20DET-R.. makes a little more power but not much. Very valuable and highlysought after. I dont know much about them, caue I barely see em, even on the internet.

Heres some pics of one.

http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=...6lr%3D%26sa%3DG

If anyone bought and seriously modded either of these cars, the R31 community would go after you in an angry mob

[Chibi Angelic]

wow those look pretty sweet! Have you seen any around? How much do you think they would cost? Alot would be my guess if they are that rare

[racsov500]

Ive seen the GTS1s and 2s around, but never a GTSR. Its even a shock to me to see an import.

GTS1s start at about 6k.. GTS2s at least 8k.. thats approximate, dont quote me

[Patto-]

Like I said I saw one the white GTS1's it was for sale for $8200. I thought it was a bit much but I haven't seen it for sale lately so it must have sold. No idea what it went for.

[Chibi Angelic]

oh yeah, soz i forgot about that

[HR31_RB20DET]

There use to be a GTS-R for sale in a yard down at the Gold Coast and the sticker price was $19,000, was there for ages (over a year atleast).

[Chibi Angelic]

wow for the year it is and that price, I guess only major enthusiasts would consider buying that, though it is really rare.

[Patto-]

Found this GTS1 for sale. Wouldn't be a bad buy considering you don't want a turbo. It is a manual and has the extra bits that a gts has so it wouldn't be too slow either. Should hold its value pretty good as well.

1988 GTS

[racsov500]

Thats pretty nice, and yes they are slowly going up in value. have a good look at the for sale section of the R31 forums too

[Chibi Angelic]

yeah that is nice :lol: yeah and ill make sure i check out the R31's for sale in the "for sale" section aswell

[342Four]

gts1's and 2's are really hot property among r31 enthusiasts - if u seen one for sale relativly cheap chibi - go and buy it cause they will get very expensive very soon

i prefer the gts2's mainly cause of the body

(we got a s3 exec at home - same body shape as the gts2's- very smooth looking - and nicer bonnet and nicer looking headlights)

ohh - and they didn't come with a diff chip - same chip just diff cam and bilstiens and extractors

there's a thread on here somewhere that has a whole debate about em - the deciding factor was a former tassie cop who drove them (they had them as cop cars there) said that they didn't - and he has driven a copy gts2 and it felt the same (ie - lumpier cam, extractors, zorst)

chibi - check out this link:

http://forum.r31skylineclub.com/index.php?topic=10605.0

australian r31 gts1 and gts2 register compiled by owners and previous owners and people who no the people who own them (lol)

[Chibi Angelic]

Koolies!

Well I make sure I look into that :lol:

Thnks a bunch

[cazz]

gts1's and 2's are really hot property among r31 enthusiasts - if u seen one for sale relativly cheap chibi - go and buy it cause they will get very expensive very soon

i prefer the gts2's mainly cause of the body

(we got a s3 exec at home - same body shape as the gts2's- very smooth looking - and nicer bonnet and nicer looking headlights)

ohh - and they didn't come with a diff chip - same chip just diff cam and bilstiens and extractors

there's a thread on here somewhere that has a whole debate about em - the deciding factor was a former tassie cop who drove them (they had them as cop cars there) said that they didn't - and he has driven a copy gts2 and it felt the same (ie - lumpier cam, extractors, zorst)

GTS 2's were chipped, they had an additional computer piggy backed onto the stock ECUI.

Chibi, if you want to know anything about these cars, and where ther are cars for sale, the R31 site is your best bet. Unique cars magazine is also another good way to fiond a nice GTS. But you want to grab one fairly quickly, these cars are getting a lot of press attention of late, and are sneaking up in value. If you want any help at all, I have 3 of these cars, and a fairly good knowledge source. Would be glad to help you out with any info, please PM me any questions you have.

[Chibi Angelic]

hey cazz!

I didnt think I would get another reply from my thread but yeah thanks for the info! I will make sure to PM you if I need any assistance (since you own 3 of them )

Thnks alot B)

[342Four]

damn - i think i got own3d

oh well

so they were really chipped? interseting

well actually piggybacked - but the same sort of thing anyway

[cazz]

damn - i think i got own3d

oh well

so they were really chipped? interseting

well actually piggybacked - but the same sort of thing anyway

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Soz to do that to you matey. They needed an extra bit of mapping to sort out the mixtures with the very lumpy cam in the GTS 2. And Nissan Australia had an agreement with Bosch, not to alter the original equipment ECU's, so that is why the piggyback happened instead of a power chip.

All in all the extra work only equated to abround 4-5 kilowatts at the wheels. With the different gearing (shorter diff ratio, taller gearbox) it wasn't really any faster. So was it really worth it? Having both of these cars, the white one is more fun to drive, its a blokier car than the red one. But the red one just has that really lumpy idle, and responsiveness that the white one, isn't lacking, but just isn't the same. The red one handles beautifully. I have never (and I mean never) driven a car that handles like my GTS 2 does. I have driven a lot of cars, and I haven't even driven a modified one that handles like this car. Not saying they are not out there, but I doubt you would find one, out of the factory that handled like these do. The cops in 1990 loved em, (there were 6 police cars made by Nissan Special Vehicles Division for the Vic police, 7 for the tassie police, and 7 fire cars as well, all GTS 2's mechanically, but stock bodies, apart from the Tassie ones which had the full body kit, wheels etc), and actually preferred them over their FE2 suspensioned Holden, and modded ford police cars.

As much as I say my GTS 1 is more fun to drive, thats probbaly because its more replacable (parts), than the GTS 2, and I am not as scared of driving it hard, coz if I bend it I can fix it, the red car is, and always will be my favourite, and that tends to be the common denominator, as reflected in the purchase price of both cars. You will pay double, or even triple for a nice GTS 2, over a nice GTS 1. But they are still great cars. The red ones will go down in history amongst R31 enthusiasts as being the pick of the crop though. I would like to say that is just my opinion, but it seems to be the majority vote.

Oh and by the way, you all gotta buy the december issue of unique cars, where you will see both my GTS's featured in Past Lane. Joe Kenwright and unique cars have done a feature on the SVD Silhouettes, and they used my babies for the photo shoot. Its out on the 16th December.

[342Four]

ohhhhhhhh how cute!!!

interesting - might have to check it out