Manual Launches In Stageas

[AlexCim]

Ok, well, as my conversion is coming closer and closer, i have been thinking about launches etc.

In the auto, stalling it up, i cant get any wheelspin off the line OR between gear changes. For an autobox, this is about normal.

The other day, drove my friends WRP10. Sat at the lights, ~3500, drop the clutch, spun some of first and chirpped into second. Anyway, then we were talking about it and he said that his car wouldnt be able to break any traction if it was auto either.

So, onto my question

For the fellas with manuals, whats the wheel spin like with a medium (~3500) launch and on hard shifts 1->2 can you get wheel spin/chirps?

If you can/cant, post what mods you have so i can get an idea of what i should expect.

Cheers,

Alex

[StageZilla]

Ok, well, as my conversion is coming closer and closer, i have been thinking about launches etc.

In the auto, stalling it up, i cant get any wheelspin off the line OR between gear changes. For an autobox, this is about normal.

The other day, drove my friends WRP10. Sat at the lights, ~3500, drop the clutch, spun some of first and chirpped into second. Anyway, then we were talking about it and he said that his car wouldnt be able to break any traction if it was auto either.

So, onto my question

For the fellas with manuals, whats the wheel spin like with a medium (~3500) launch and on hard shifts 1->2 can you get wheel spin/chirps?

If you can/cant, post what mods you have so i can get an idea of what i should expect.

Cheers,

Alex

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ok mines manual and i know its 26 but still, a manual is alot more viscous on takeoff, as autos slip the gearbox off the line (like slipping a clutch in a manual) so it never impacts solidly on the wheels, and i can imagine with a decent clutch due to the 1800kg weight and rb25 it would still spin on launch for sure if u gave it some revs, and even on 1st-2nd changes, i had the rb25 from the stagea in the vl with a manual and stock as a rock and it went bloody hard (unfair comparision as vl weighs around 1450kg).

Manual will feel faster cause it throws ya back in the seat on gearchanges, just dont give it too much off the lights as my axle snapped just coming onto boost in first gear as it reached redline. But the main prob with the stagea was it doesnt have LSD rear diff so all the cars weight (it was in 2wd only when it broke) was driving through that one axle (twig )

Should change the car totally with the manual, i cant stand autos trust me

[Ska]

Yes well I learnt the hard way that when 4 wheels spin, the car lurches in whichever direction the road is sloping in well at least that is what has happened to me, both times in the wet though.

I have a GTR diff though, but still, in the dry anything above ~4.5k rpm the front really starts to move around a bit, but in the wet, it truely is an amazing feeling when all for spin, cant quite explain it.

In the dry I can chirp 2nd and 3rd, in the wet I can spin through 2nd, have not tried 3rd, havent got the balls yet

[AlexCim]

BASTARDS!

Ill be there soon, urgh, autos piss me off

Only a matter of time now...

But that info sounds very good, very promising and something that ill look forward too.

Chances are i should upgrade the diff at the same time i beleive, as the PFC/power mods etc will all be going in at the same time, so a brisk jump in power and a manual wont make the car love me much...

[GoldZilla]

Hmm, I haven't taken the chance of doing a hard launch off the line yet, because I don't want to be breaking any driveshafts this early in my ownership experience (and because I don't yet have the money to replace anything).

But, seeing as my car has had a six-puck clutch installed when the conversion was done, it's kinda hard to "ease" in the clutch in on gear changes when you're hard-charging. I'm still getting used to it, which doesn't help.

But to answer part of the question, then yes, it will chirp on changes into second and third gears.

And my car is standard apart from the R-32 GT-R gearbox, the aforementioned clutch and a 3" cat-back exhaust.

Cheers,

Nick T.

[Sydneykid]

Do any of you guys with manuals reckon you could drag off an auto Stagea with the same 4wkw?

cheers

[Ska]

I reckon if I raced an auto with the same power, the auto would win, easier to get off the line without wheelspin and faster gear changes.

But anyone could beat me, everytime I went to the drags in my old r33 all I ever ended up doing was wheelspinning, I is teh suck at drag racing

[AlexCim]

I dont know, for some reason i cant see an auto winning until some serious (200+) power is reached

What i find with the stagea, with the auto is that it bogs down between 2500-4000. I presume with the manual, depending how hard i laucnh, i could probably end the wheel spin around 3500 and that would be perfect

But i think the issue i am seeing is more a matter of my car being standard tuned.

[Sydneykid]

I dont know, for some reason i cant see an auto winning until some serious (200+) power is reached

What i find with the stagea, with the auto is that it bogs down between 2500-4000. I presume with the manual, depending how hard i laucnh, i could probably end the wheel spin around 3500 and that would be perfect

But i think the issue i am seeing is more a matter of my car being standard tuned.

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The reason I ask is we have an R34GTT manual with 265 rwkw that does 11.9 at 120 mph and the Stagea is faster on the average street, up to the speed limit (110 kph). The Stagea pulls away until the R34GTT gets is power to the ground, stops wheelspinning, which is all of 1st gear and about 2/3 of second gear. The Stagea has around 150-160 4wkw at the moment judging by its feel. So when it has 200 4wkw it is just going to be that much harder to beat.

I can launch the Stage with 0.7 bar of boost by simply holding it against the torque converter. Then just slide the left foot off the brake, no wheelspin and it never gets under the the 0.7 bar. There is no way that the manual will ever do that, and the auto is so stealth, no noise, no rev, rev, rev, dump, wheelspin. Just see ya ......

cheers

[StageZilla]

The reason I ask is we have an R34GTT manual with 265 rwkw that does 11.9 at 120 mph and the Stagea is faster on the average street, up to the speed limit (110 kph).  The Stagea pulls away until the R34GTT gets is power to the ground, stops wheelspinning, which is all of 1st gear and about 2/3 of second gear.  The Stagea has around 150-160 4wkw at the moment judging by its feel.  So when it has 200 4wkw it is just going to be that much harder to beat.

I can launch the Stage with 0.7 bar of boost by simply holding it against the torque converter.  Then just slide the left foot off the brake, no wheelspin and it never gets under the the 0.7 bar.  There is no way that the manual will ever do that, and the auto is so stealth, no noise, no rev, rev, rev, dump, wheelspin.  Just see ya ......

cheers

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but ya get to change gears

and droping the clutch in 4wd wouldnt spin bugger all would it? considering the attessa is similiar to r33/34 models?

honestly i ran mine in 2wd only and with 350rwhp it hardly wheelspins compared to normal 2wd cars (e.g. VL) which i could spin anytime over 120kmh or so it would just kick out, but the stagea is a really grippy in comparision, even from lights leaving at 3k rpm it would spin and then scramble for grip for the first 10 metres and then its traction

[pure_methamphetamachine]

I have 288kW at all wheels in mine. At 3,000 RPM launch the tyres lose traction for literally a fraction of a second (they "chirp", but that's it) then it's grip all the way. I have 275/35 R18 Goodyear GSD3's all round. No loss of grip on gear changes ever, and I am currently running 1.3 bar.

The fun will start in a few weeks when the T51R goes on...

[StageZilla]

I have 288kW at all wheels in mine. At 3,000 RPM launch the tyres lose traction for literally a fraction of a second (they "chirp", but that's it) then it's grip all the way. I have 275/35 R18 Goodyear GSD3's all round. No loss of grip on gear changes ever, and I am currently running 1.3 bar.

The fun will start in a few weeks when the T51R goes on...

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nice, u got a gtr rear end and axles? cause i think u will need it soon enough

[Terminal]

He has a 260RS, so i'd asume he has GTR everything

[StageZilla]

He has a 260RS, so i'd asume he has GTR everything

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arhh k awesome, thought he had a rs four

so what mods u got Methman haha

any 1/4 mile times?

cheers

Brad