Secret Team Westside Forums?

[SmoothLine]

Originally posted by brendanf

Smooth, why are you agreeing with Ryan and not me ? I agree with waht you say !

I did mate, we kind of posted the same things... TW is funny etc etc...

[Merli]

Originally posted by [ryan]

Merli: People who read it previously would obviously know about it by now, There's been multiple threads mentioning it, everybody that cruises now knows about it, you found out from your friend, etc.. you get what i mean. Anybody who read it anyway will or probrably has already heard about it, so as people think "hey! i liked reading that! i want access!" they can go and ask to be added, those who didn't read it, didn't care, don't have to and won't take any notice...

Okay, no worries... makes sense...

Looks like I missed out a lot during my trip!!:eek:

[cereal]

I'm out.....

This isn't worth arguing about. It's just gonna keep going around in circles. I bid you all adieu..... :shake:

[Merli]

Could another possibility be to make it a locked forum? So people can see it but not access it?

That way new members can find out about it?

Just throwing ideas around now.

[B-Man]

See ya Dave, thanks for the constuctive and not personal critisism.

[red900ss]

Originally posted by Merli

Just one question, and I apologise if I missed this whilst I was in Japan, but I don't understand the reasoning behind making it hidden in the first place?

If people complained about TW thread overtaking the NSW forums (ROFL!), and a seperate forum was made to accomodate them, why make it hidden?

Personally I think TW is part of NSW, and shouldn't be segregated like it is now. I enjoyed reading the funny TW threads.

Just a bit of background re. TW Forum;

[ryan] set it up with NO discussion with any of the Admins or Mods. This was an abuse of his privleges as a Moderator. These privleges were given to him in order to assist with designing styles.

AFAIK [ryan] was specifically instructed to not make any changes to the forums without discussion, except for styles.

As a result [ryan] was removed by Prank as a Mod. and will never be trusted in this positon again.

I guess the issue is by creating the forum did his actions do more harm than good? Is the ensuing debate a positive thing for the Forums or damaging?

Whatever the issues [ryan] has created a problem that we must resolve.

[d0p3y]

Originally posted by two40

that's easier said than done ryan. see what you didn't think of when you went ahead and created this section without asking was the implications. you can't create just this one secret forum. if this stays then squizz wants a garage spank section. there'll be numerous other factions asking for one and we'll have crap everywhere. but if that's what everyone wants then it will be done. it is everyones forum after all!

From what i know;

Aren't each of the state forums taken care of individually by each state execs etc - Separate rules, separate moderating guidlines and so on? Victoria, For example, have their Wasteland thread, and they say "keep the spamming there".. that seems to keep their members happy, or maybe not, i don't pay attention to them as it doesn't concern me. And if other factions are asking for a private forum - review the situation and see whether it's a good idea for them to have a forum or not. In this case, it's a good idea for this private forum to get around those double standards. If someone requests a private forum with valid reasons, and the moderators/execs in that state approve of it, so be it. If someone requests a private forum without valid reasons, it's not approved of by the people in that state, tell them no. Simple. It's not primary school, there's no need for the "oh but muuuuummmmmm! so and so has this! i want one tooooooooo!!!! MUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!" type attitude.

Hope that made some sense :confused:

[Merli]

Originally posted by red900ss

Just a bit of background re. TW Forum

Thanks Dino!

I came back to Sydney to find the NSW forums dead, and realised why when I spoke to one of the guys and I found out about the TW forums!

Sorry to open up a can of worms!

[d0p3y]

Originally posted by Merli

Could another possibility be to make it a locked forum? So people can see it but not access it?  

That way new members can find out about it?

Just throwing ideas around now.

Once again, this'd put the double standards into play with the whole "family safe" thing they want.

[SmoothLine]

Exactly...

There is nothing wrong with the private forum idea itself...

[red900ss]

Originally posted by [ryan]

You don't get it. Once again I'll repeat myself. You want to make it public and put a disclaimer. OK. I have no doubt it'll turn out like the wasteland. People will still whinge DESPITE the disclaimer, and of course you'll crack down and not allow stuff. Why? Because you want it to be a "family safe" website. Well, if this is the case, then you'd have to do the same thing to the westside forum you did to the wasteland then. Wasteland has a disclaimer doesn't it? Yet you insist no hot chick threads etc, cause you want "family safe". Double stanards galore. Yeah, nice work

umm...I don't believe that is a "Double standards" issue [ryan].

By having a disclaimer and not allowing porn etc. would just be "the standards".

[SmoothLine]

Ryan is trying to say that some people enjoy the content, while some dont, so why not keep that content in an environment that is away from the element that doesnt approve of it?

Unless of course that content is deemed to not be suitable, not just in general SAU but also the private forum...

[d0p3y]

Disclaimers don't stop little billy from clicking the thread and reading about the "angry dragon".

And i don't see the private forum as a problem, it was never a problem until certain people blew it up INTO a problem. I'm with cereal, this is going in circles.

Snor.

[red900ss]

Smooth your suggestion may well be the one that resolves this issue.

Ryan thanks for that constructive comment....

[SmoothLine]

Originally posted by red900ss

Smooth your suggestion may well be the one that resolves this issue.

Its the only way i can see for SAU to prosper like we all want it too red... It will give everyone the option. That way there will be no complaints on content etc etc

Therefor allowing everyone to enjoy SAU in thier own way...

[Silver-Arrowz]

Sh*t! I thought TW secret forum was just a joke, but it's real!

There has to be a resolution soon cause looks like this may shread NSW forums apart.

[two40]

the irony of this whole situation is beyond me. all this crap so that ppl can post crap. i hope everyone can see the humour of this situation.

[B-Man]

5hit, am I missing something ??

WHO COMPLAINED ABOUT THE CONTENT OF TW ????? ( and what was the issue in general ?)

Yes we are going in circles until somone provides the facts.

If I am deemed wrong, I will eat humble pie, (It actually is pretty good !!)

[B-Man]

George, I am just doing this to get the NSW post count up so we can beat VIC...

N O T ! ! ! !

[Tosh]

I would like to offer some suggestions.

While I totally agree with Ryan's intentions, I also agree and totally understand what Dino has said. I do believe that the concept behind the Team Westside forum is a positive move and should be adopted. I say this because there are alot of people out there who do get uptight about "hijacked" threads and general "post whoring". I can see that some of the TW antics we got upto in the threads in the NSW section may have left people with a sour impression of us or deterred them from staying because I'll admit that we do post alot of "openly homosexual", stupid and exclusive (for loss of a better word) content which offends some. I can totally understand someone reading our threads thinking, "ummmmmmmm I'll be staying away from them!!!", but unless you know the TW crew and understand that all this is light hearted, non-serious, fun chit chat amongst guys who know that what the others say is to be taken as a joke and is never serious, you can't really appreciate the humorous aspect of TW. The great thing about TW is that at all times we can all get along in a relaxed and humorous environment without the ego's and "I know everything so I'm god" attitude. There's no politics, no bitching, and no grudges. It's pure fun and enjoyment which is hard to find in the performance car scene these days.

Now to the suggestions, (btw I'm just brainstorming here)

1. Make the TW forum public, with a disclaimer (although I have doubts as to how effective this will be)

2. Make it private but visible. Meaning if a member of the forums clicks on it without access, a disclaimer page opens up stating clearly the content which is contained within and that the forum is purely a light hearted discussion forum and not a place to post threads for serious discussion. Should the member agree, they click AGREE which opens up a PM window to PranK to request access. (This may mean some serious work for the forum admins. sorry in advance guys )

Thanks for your time