"PINEAPPLES" - Before/After Review

[benm]

I've got a 1995 R33 Series 1 GTS-T currently putting out 168rwkw @ stock boost and 192rwkw @ 12psi.

I had been suffering from -heavy- axle tramp when trying to accellerate hard from lights in 1st and 2nd gear.

After doing a search thru the SAU forums i came across "Pineapples" (thread here).

I read over some of the threads regarding this part and decided that for only $120 delivered i would certainly give this a go. Soon as my funds were cleared Dr_Drift posted the pineapples (My mum thought i had suddenly discovered a craving for expensive pineapples from Melbourne LOL).

They came packaged with instructions but it took me awhile just to workout where they go let alone how to put them in so i decided to visit my local Midas and get em to do the installation for $70/hr (took 35mins).

Soon as they were installed i slaughtered my car out of Midas and could notice the difference in the rear end of my car almost immediately. The first time i drove my car hard off the lights (revs were at 1,000rpm) it did axle tramp abit but nowhere near as much as normal.

Even driving in 2/3/4 gears when putting the hammer down you can certainly feel the pineapples kicking into effect from the rear suspension and it actually gives out a nice sounding noise too when wind it up.

Their is a corner in the housing estatethat i live in that i would have to back off when going through the apex as the backend would start to squeel and get very unsettled. Now with the pineapples the backend just squats and takes the corner so much better almost like i can trust that the rear-end is going to just stick to the road (i have stock wheels/tyres which arent helping at those speeds).

I did notice a slight vibration when travelling on the freeway @ 110km/h @ a constant speed both thru my dash and in the rear, this disappear when slowing down or speeding up but was noticable (and alittle irritating) when at a steady constant speed.

Over the weekend (cruise to the gong and back damn i did 380km on Sunday) i deffinetly noticed the difference with an extra person in the car. Sometimes i was able to just flatten it off the lights and the damn thing would just accellerate like the bitch that it is which i was quite impressed with.

I would say that if you have $120-190 odd sitting around and you dont want to replace your stock suspension with something newer or arent in the market for a PowerFC etc etc but just want to get some bang for your buck (like replacing your oil or filters etc) then for only $120 you can't go wrong with getting these pineapples.

My next stop is over to whiteline to get the rest of my suspension checked out to remove the slight knocking noises in the rear (told i get this because of the aftermarket nismo adjustable shish-ka-bang suspension) and that i just need to get some different bushes setup etc.

If you want to order these pineapples click on the thread linked above and place your order as they are certainly worth it.

Overall i rate them an 8/10 :uh-huh:

[rev210]

That vibration you feel is due to the front part of the kit.

As opposed to following the torque reccomendations (I tried it before and got nasty vibrations and bouncing off the bump stops) I tightened the the bushes within an inch of their lives. No more vibration.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

benm,

I'm glad finally someone has posted a comparison of life with andwithout pineapples, and for $120 I will be doing it soon.

Thanks for the thread.

See'ya:burnout:

[rev210]

gtst-vspec, you might like to look at the KCA349 kit from whiteline. That is the one I have and you should be able to get it locally. Maybe that silvia owner might part with his (they are the same kit).

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Yeah, Osc@r said he'd give me his, so I'll organise to borrow his car for a few hours.

See'ya:burnout:

[rev210]

you need ideally two people to get the front ones out without the risk of squashing your hand into red jam. I did mine by myself and althought it took only minutes I had the fear of god put into me by a close call.

[Roy]

My car never use to axle tramp, but now with pineapples it axle tramps very badly. I dont mind because i have only ever given a boot off the lights about 3 times. I suspect the axle tramp has as much to do with tyres as anything. I recall HSV using different tyres on the VP Clubsport for the same reason.

Can recommend the Whiteline kit, my car has the whole shibang (Look at the picture on the website R32...thats my car:D ), and its about as far as you would want to go on the street while still handling a lot better. Try 3 seconds around Wakefield (Some of which may have been driver improvement)

Still 1:15 isnt exactly blindinlgy fast, but considering my only mods were Whitleine kit, cat back exhaust, 17" rims with 451 Falkens and filter it isnt bad. (Good tyres could drop the times further)

[inark]

ooooooooooooo i cant wait to put mine on

[Guest INASNT]

thanks for the info benm, i was gonna put some on ages ago, then i forgot, and now u reminded me!

[benm]

Just make sure u email Dr_Drift and help out some SAU boys.

[Guest INASNT]

yes i have met the good doctor many a time!

[Gester]

Just wondering what is axel tramping and is it a bad thing?

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Gester,

Yes axle tramp is a bad thing, means that your not getting all your power to the road cause the rear axle is bouncing. The rubber bushes which are factory are designed for comfort, not hard launches. Replacing them with the pineapples reduces the tramp.

I'll let someone describe the process better, but axle tramp will slow your 1/4 mile times down.

See'ya:burnout:

[meggala]

as noted previously my car impored quite a bit with the pineapples and was much nicer to drive I cant wait to put them in the drift setting for some great sliding

[Jimbo2000]

hi.

if your car is equipped with Nolothane radius rod bushes will that decrease the axle tramp or should pinapples also go on?

[Guest Nismo_Freak]

Axel Tramp aka Wheel Hop also leads to broken rear ends, this is frame power being surged when the tire hits the ground and the gears being jarred. Also the U-Joints can suffer when the rear assembly moves out of align.

[rev210]

If you get wheel hop after doing a mod, where before you had wheel spin, you are on the right track. Stiffer rear suspension will sort it out often.

[Gradenko]

Originally posted by Jimbo2000

if your car is equipped with Nolothane radius rod bushes will that decrease the axle tramp or should pinapples also go on?

Adj radius rod bushes go on the front end and primarily improve steering feedback and allows for more castor to be run. A good addition but doesn't affect axle tramp at all.

[Dr_Drift]

If anyone wants some I got a couple of spare sets from being stiffed by a couple of people who said they wanted some and never came round with the cash.....

E-Mail me if your interested....

[Jet]

where can u buy the pineapple from? does anyone know a place to get it from in sydney?