Where To Buy Tolulene In Perth

[KeeFy]

So other than the fact it smells bad, and is bad for cat, it's pretty much alright to use?

[MLCrisis]

Hi, Guys. Just a note of caution to all of you budding bucket chemists. You need to take care how you throw this stuff around, if any of you are thinking of mixing it outside the tank. The best way, I would think, would be to part fill your tank, add the carefully calculated amount of Toluene/other additive and then finish filling your tank with normal gasoline from the bowser.

Avoid chucking this stuff into buckets/drums or whatever. Keep it in a suitable container and pour it straight into the car.

If you must pre-mix, then do it outside (not even under a car port), well away from electrical appliances, including lights. Minimise the opening into the drum (i.e don't just slosh it into an open top container) and stand up-wind. To minimise your exposure, wear gloves (those red plasticky, rubber ones that come up over your wrists), preferably some sort of mask to protect from fumes and DEFINITELY wear goggles to protect your eyes from splashes. Do everything you can to minimise ignition sources. Bear in mind that any vapours will be heavy and tend to slump over the ground - so close the door into any building nearby (like your kitchen!) to prevent fumes drifting in. Bear in mind that ignition could occur some distance away and flash back to the drum/container. (So don't think you can let your mate smoke 10 metres away.)

If half of Perth is going to be sloshing this stuff around, we are bound to hear of some idiot getting burned.

Don't play with the stuff if you do not know what you are doing. These are chemicals with a significant fire risk. Just drive slower for a few weeks on whatever petrol you can get!

Cheers.

[KeeFy]

Never considered these facts. Opps. Could have killed myself. Or maybe someone could have killed himself. Thanks for the heads up!

[Josh]

wow... didn't realise it was quite that volatile...

[pnblight]

How does Toluene fair with the O2 sensors as i know there are octane booster there aren’t O2 sensor compatible.

pete

[rev210]

Hi everyone Dr dangerous here!

Yes toluene is almost as dangerous as normal petrol, although petrol is far more volitile, has more toxic fumes and contains carcinogens.

So if you must use it then do so with as much care as fueling up your lawn mower. If fact people should take more care with their lawn mowers for future refference.

Toluene for the record is not carcinogenic. If someone wants to argue with me then I will respond with 'my dad can beat up your dad..'

Toluene is ok with the O2 sensors if the mixture is right for the tune. Running higher mixtures will result in unburnt fuel, the toluene component helps to keep O2 sensors clean thanks to higher exhaust temps, it's also a good solvent to clean things with.

[Kaido_RR]

hey rev, just a quick question. u mention alot about "tune" but for the people with stock ecus like myself just looking for something to make the car not blowup when i wanna give it alittle, can we uses tolulene and it will be ok?

[rev210]

You can use the 10-15% perhaps a little more and increase the base timing via the CAS a few degrees.

I did use toluene at 20% mix on a stock ecu and found it to work very well, with a few degrees base timing put in.

[Josh]

What about this rotting fuel line bizzo I have been hearing about?

How hard is it to add in a couple of degrees on the CAS? just loosen bits off then swivel a tiny bit, then tighten? (with exact measuring taking place of course)

[pnblight]

What about this rotting fuel line bizzo I have been hearing about?

How hard is it to add in a couple of degrees on the CAS? just loosen bits off then swivel a tiny bit, then tighten? (with exact measuring taking place of course)

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what ever you do use a timing light and its a good habit to scribe the positon of the cas before you start, as it will make it easy to reset it to the original time

[KeeFy]

CAS? CAMS ? Adjustable cams?

[Kaido_RR]

CAS not cams

CAS= crank angle sesnor or something (my spelling sucks)

chages the timing on ur car

[Steve]

I found resetting the ecu worked well, just let the car work it out for itself but that was when I just used to throw 4L ( 2 ice cram containers) in half a tank of fuel - it was all pretty technical stuff

Rev210 (aka DR Dangerous..lol would make a nice new nick) would you think it necessary to increase timing if you are doseing up your fuel to bring it back up to 98?

[KeeFy]

CAS? So how do i go about doing it? Where is it located? *blurness*

[rev210]

reseting ecu only changes the 'closed loop' map. It does not effect the ignition or fuel maps for power, otherwise you could mod things and not need a PFC or other programable ecu.

A manual advancing of the CAS will only 'shift' the timing map so to speak.

[Steve]

If the OEM ecu detects knock, it pulls timing, and I can 100% guarantee it does this at WOT, not just closed loop. Resetting the ecu, causes it to reset and relearn its timing maps

It does work, I have even seen the stock ecu relearn its power curve on a dyno after an ecu reset.

Of course resetting wont give you indefinate timing advance, nor will it directly add or remove fuel into maps, but it does allow the ecu to readjust to new fuel, or new driving style. So I dont see where you are coming from with the no need for aftermarket management theory.

[Josh]

You can see the CAS on your front gear cover - looking at engine from the front - its the silver bit on the right hand side - prolly has RB25 pressed into the cover next to it in your case..

[noise]

if I did a 10-20% mix with some shell premium or somthing. Would my powerfc handle it ok?

[rev210]

Hi Steve,

I am pretty sure you will find the timing maps in a stock ecu are fixed. If you can show me a timing 3D graph Vs load before and after then I would agree with you. A power curve isn't idicative of the timing map.

Thats why the 'Lumpy ROM' for the R32's is really good as you can modify fully the timing Map in 3D.

Perhaps a tuner would like to and 2c?

[rev210]

the PFC can handle that. Go into 'settings' and then 'inj/ign' menu add advance on the fly as you need it and monitor the knock levels. The addtional advance you plug in on this menu needs to be redone everytime you restart the engine as it's temporary. So there is no danger of you forgetting once you are back with normal fuel and running to much advance. This tool is a fairly blunt instrument by my experience. I tend to change the map itself after writing down the original values.