GTR vs GTS-T

[inark]

lmao... i do to but not in a GTST

[akeenan]

id have it in either

[Leewah]

Originally posted by INASNT

he does drive like a granny apparently!

I know you're trying to get a rise outta me and it ain't gonna happen today

I admit that on any given day, I will drive the car in the most inconspicous way possible coz of the number of canaries which flying round these days.

I'm not one to make a huge scene out there. If you took notice of my car, it's probably only coz it has white Volk Challenge rims on it which contrasts with the purple.

I have been known to open the wastegate once in a while late at night but the fact is that you'll only hear the gate when there is someone out there worth challenging. Petrol is expesive these days and at 22L for the 100kms at normal driving, I don't have a lot of it

After the cruise on the 10th, I started with a full tank and after coming back from Arthur's Seat, my tank was less than a quarter.

600 horses? Now that I've sorted my spark problem, get ready for some real hp

Besides, INSANT, even when I do drive like a granny, I reckon I could give you a decent run for your money

As for being rich.....well that is nothing but perception really. I'm pretty broke now that I've bought a house

[akeenan]

Besides, INSANT, even when I do drive like a granny, I reckon I could give you a decent run for your money

nice!!!!!

[Guest INASNT]

Besides, INSANT, even when I do drive like a granny, I reckon I could give you a decent run for your money

No rise from you??? why not??? hehehe

U forget i actually drove your car when i was getting the fmic put on :bahaha:

If u change gears at 2000rpm when u race me i will beat u

[Leewah]

I'll cut you a deal. I'll change gears 2000 rpm before my rev limiter

Originally posted by INASNT

No rise from you??? why not???  hehehe

U forget i actually drove your car when i was getting the fmic put on :bahaha:  

If u change gears at 2000rpm when u race me i will beat u

[25GTT]

Originally posted by BoOsTeD_RB26

it sounds odd.....it was probably more luck than anything. What kinda power are you making?

I thought the GTR standard was 207 kilowatts from engine right?

which is about 210 rwhp.

with FMIC and a few other little things the gtst would easily be pulling 210 rwhp....

so if on rolling start why do you think the GTR would win? wouldn't it be even? twin or single turbo still same HP from rolling start and close weight between the 2..

[Guest FlyGuy]

Well I'm pretty sure it was a real R33 GTR. It had the wide guards and standard GTR body, even a VSpec sticker on the back too.

Something I didn't mention before was, the GTR had 2 people in it and I was by myself... Still I think a R33 GTR does 0-100 in maybe 5 seconds and a GTS-t is 6 seconds? So from a rolling start they are going to be closer then a standing start. I know from a standing start your not going to go close to a GTR.

Maybe he was mucking with me, but I heard him floor it... I've never been in a GTR before and it was just supprising at the speed difference...

But hey they are both only cars right? Still maybe a GTR when I'm old enough to buy one outright :bahaha:

[akeenan]

U forget i actually drove your car when i was getting the fmic put on

is this true? can i come down and have a drive?

[Duncan]

I'm with whatsisname, gts-t 187kw, gtr 206kw, only 20 kw difference stock. Take traction out of the equation and they'll be close in a rolling start, taking into account the extra 150kg in a GTR.

[diduc]

I thought the GTR standard was 207 kilowatts from engine right?

I read in a mag that the real output for a GTR is at least 230kw cos they were comparing it with a US spec Supra which has 239kw (bigger cams, steel wheel turbos etc....)

I've put quite a few lengths (~5) on an R33 GT-R V Spec (exhaust/filters & boost increase) from a 70km/h roll to the top of 3rd, he went first. The driver of the GT-R & I spoke after the run. He was in the same gear as me & didn't stuff up. It was an honest run. Then again I wasn't exactly stock @ that stage.

Matt was that 215, 235 or 257rwkw@ stage?

[400HP]

GTR had 2 people in it and I was by myself... Still I think a R33 GTR does 0-100 in maybe 5 seconds and a GTS-t is 6 seconds? So from a rolling start they are going to be closer then a standing start. I know from a standing start your not going to go close to a GTR.  

You said you raced to 160km/hr right?

I'm not saying this cos I have an R but seriously a stock GTR would chomp a light tuned GTST...... forget about the factory released power figures and weight... if all cars could be judged by the statistics explain why Integra Type-R's are so fast around a track with their 'measly' 140 odd kw and their FWD and no brembos in Australia....

anyway it doesn't matter.. what you should do is get a mate with a GTR.... get on a rolling start and see how you go hehe

[Guest Oz Elitesport]

There's a reasonable difference in torque, so he should have realed you in.

[whatsisname]

Originally posted by diduc

Matt was that 215,  235 or 257rwkw@ stage?

Ummm.......good question mate? I can't remember if it was the 215 or 235 stage, definitely not 257 as it was a while ago.

Guys,

I don't doubt the GT-R standard power figures are quite a bit higher than quoted (@ least 230+kw) but in all reality it isn't' *that* much grunt considering the weight.

1530kg - R33 non V spec

1540kg - R33 V spec

These figures are dry weight too! Add oils/fuel etc.. & you're up near 1600+kg. Add a driver & that's one heavy car for 230+kw to haul *on a roll*, off the line is a whole other ball game!

R33 GTS25t - 1370kg (5sp) 1390kg (auto) dry weight

My car - 1455kg (over 1/2 tank +10-20kg of stuff in the boot) as weighed on very accurately calibrated weighbridge.

So.........

R33 GTS25t: 1455kg + 80kg driver = 1535kg

R33 GT-R non V spec (lighter): 1530kg + ~50kg fuel, oils etc.. + 80kg driver = 1660kg

1660kg - 1535kg = 125kg & I'd say that would be a conservative estimate.

"Every kg lost is more than a hp gained"

A healthy 180rwkw GTS25t "should" be able to give a *STOCK* R33 GT-R a very good scare *on a roll*.

As an interesting side note Munro on these forums had his R34 V spec weighed not long ago.....1658 kg! Add a driver & that's a porker!!!

*Note* All standard weight figures 100% accurate as per Nissan specs.

[Guest INASNT]

Originally posted by Leewah

I'll cut you a deal.  I'll change gears 2000 rpm before my rev limiter

now thats just playing dirty!

is this true? can i come down and have a drive?

yes any time!!

[Duncan]

Also, both fatz (stock R32 GTR) and I (stock R33 GTS, 9psi boost) found ourselves at the start of the EC straight last time out. Start ~110km/h, finish ~200km/h.

The GTS-T pulled away. Now, I may have started slightly faster thru the corner, but he didn't reel me in...

Seriously, a stock GTR doesn't really put out that much power for its wieght, the great thing about them is how easy they are to improve, not how quick they are stock.

Standing start is a totally different story. Traction always wins...

[TTT]

what's that saying..

"KW sells cars, TORQUE wins races."

what is the torque difference between a GTST and a GTR?