Sydneykid Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Sounds like you have never submitted a rule change to ANDRA or read the rule book on how to submit said rule change. So nice of you to jump on the drag racing bandwagon and criticise something you've never been a part of. Thankyou.Adrian <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi Adrian, I feel very insulted. I have been drag racing as far back as the "Brickyards" and Castlereagh. I have at least one shelf of drag racing trophies (driver and car owner) in amongst 10 odd shelves of circuit racing. These days circuit racing consumes my time, but I am far from ignorant about drag racing. I was a scrutineer for some time, as well as competing, driving and engineering. In the late '70's I even drove at the old Pomona Raceway in the US, using a borrowed chassis and one of my own Chevy engines that I sold when the event finished. Enough nostalgia........................ If one guy puts in one rule change submission, it doesn't get the same attention as if 20 guys put in 20 rule change submissions. That's the way politics works and this is all about lobbying, not logic. cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1737090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrxkilla Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 If one guy puts in one rule change submission, it doesn't get the same attention as if 20 guys put in 20 rule change submissions. That's the way politics works and this is all about lobbying, not logic. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> thats exactly how it was explained to us at the se qld forum its all about lobbying, not particurly common sense etc. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1737115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1JZ.747 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 so lets get the qld people to lobby together and the nsw people to lobby together and maybe be we may get things heard. could be a pain in the arse, but its common sense. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1737168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrxkilla Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 ok we all need to have a common goal EXACTLY what rules do we want changed and what do we want them changed to... we will still have to follow the procedure. mick Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1737261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiper the Fox Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Hi Adrian, I feel very insulted. I have been drag racing as far back as the "Brickyards" and Castlereagh. I have at least one shelf of drag racing trophies (driver and car owner) in amongst 10 odd shelves of circuit racing. These days circuit racing consumes my time, but I am far from ignorant about drag racing. I was a scrutineer for some time, as well as competing, driving and engineering. In the late '70's I even drove at the old Pomona Raceway in the US, using a borrowed chassis and one of my own Chevy engines that I sold when the event finished.Enough nostalgia........................ If one guy puts in one rule change submission, it doesn't get the same attention as if 20 guys put in 20 rule change submissions. That's the way politics works and this is all about lobbying, not logic. cheers <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry SK, i think again you have missed someones point, your ego again got in the way. Im sure Adrian does not really give too hoots about your antiquated history in the sport. The point he was trying to make is that you have had nothing to do with the sport (Sport Compact) and then you barge through the door whinging like a stuffed pig cause the rules don't suit you or your car. There are the correct channels to voice your opinion and the right people to see to get rule changes done. Im sure a lot of thinking and discussion went in to the rules we now have. So running around beating your chest and stroking your ego will get you little support in your cause for changes to be made. Adrian can be a very valuable allie in your quest to have things looked at. Just be a little more patient and lets make a group submission, i have rules that i think are silly too. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1737652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneykid Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Sorry if I am rattling your cages, I assure that is not my intention. A number of people have pointed out issues with the current Sport Compact regulations to me and asked my technical opinion. One of them sent me a link to this thread and asked me to comment. Having been to a briefing session and attended enough recent events in both a spectating and engineering capacity, it was blatently obvious that there were a few illogical items in the regulations. This is not a matter of what suites one car or not, they are stupid for all cars. Please go about changing/improving the rules your way and I will go about it my way. I know my way works because I have employed it successfully in the past. In the end who cares which way works, all that maters is we have lots more competitors having a good time racing. cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1738596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiper the Fox Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Sorry if I am rattling your cages, I assure that is not my intention. A number of people have pointed out issues with the current Sport Compact regulations to me and asked my technical opinion. One of them sent me a link to this thread and asked me to comment. Having been to a briefing session and attended enough recent events in both a spectating and engineering capacity, it was blatently obvious that there were a few illogical items in the regulations.This is not a matter of what suites one car or not, they are stupid for all cars. Please go about changing/improving the rules your way and I will go about it my way. I know my way works because I have employed it successfully in the past. In the end who cares which way works, all that maters is we have lots more competitors having a good time racing. cheers <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ok SK ive started the ball rolling...all feel free to add your idea's. Ill make sure the relevant people are informed and we may put common ideas to ANDRA as a group submission. http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=96016 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1738651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Sorry SK, i think again you have missed someones point, your ego again got in the way. Im sure Adrian does not really give too hoots about your antiquated history in the sport. .... muahahaha thats big from you ego boy! You are a mad buying rice boy bride seats and then complaining about price if you need a pair. We have a very similar rule in circuit racing you either have to run matching seats or standard.....so 1 aftermarket and 1 standard is fine. Pretty sensible compromise. But when you can sell 15yo GTR seats for $1k a pair and replace them aftermarket brand new for $460 a pair why not? We can get fixed back seats from $460 a pair. http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...topic=48101&hl= Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1738705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1JZ.747 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 so who racing? my hands up Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1754430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiper the Fox Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 (edited) so who racing?my hands up <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In...paid...racing...woot! btw..who wants cheap povvo seats anyway? Edited November 30, 2005 by DiRTgarage Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1754432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2rismo Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 <sigh> OK - I have sitting in front of me, a copy of the first ever ANDRA sport compact rule book for this year. Who wants final clarification on a rule or wants help with writing a submission that WILL be taken seriously and seen by the correct people for discussion? Adrian Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1754701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NXTIME Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 I will be racing, even if the car is not completely ready, in support of SC racing. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1755049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiper the Fox Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 <sigh> OK - I have sitting in front of me, a copy of the first ever ANDRA sport compact rule book for this year.Who wants final clarification on a rule or wants help with writing a submission that WILL be taken seriously and seen by the correct people for discussion? Adrian <{POST_SNAPBACK}> already written one...see submission thread Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1755293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECR033 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 According to the current entry list on the WSID website (SEE HERE), there's only 18 cars entered so far...I would have thought more people would have entered by now given there's only a little over 2 weeks to go??? Or is this just the calm before the flood of entries in the last week or so??? Here's hoping anyway... In any case, I'm going to enter later this week...just want to have a bit of fun, do a 9 sec pass () and make my small contribution to SC in this country Shall we get a list going... IN: 1JZ.747 DiRTgarage NXTIME ECR033 So, anyone else??? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1755489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spx25t Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 hahaha is it just me or did anyone notice that Mark Borg will be racing in SPORTFWD in his RX3 ????? I will be there to spectate but no racing for me. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1755874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr34gtr Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 i have entered... the numbers are not good so far... come on guys lets get the numbers up... cheers. mark Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1756118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiper the Fox Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 i have entered...the numbers are not good so far... come on guys lets get the numbers up... cheers. mark <{POST_SNAPBACK}> that must be an old list...as i know of a few people who definately have entered not on there. Hey Mark...i see the little datto is on the list (one above me) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1756169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1JZ.747 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 jesus, my car has grown a front diff according to that list, i am running in sport awd. and you gtrs are in rwd. lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1756176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiper the Fox Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 jesus, my car has grown a front diff according to that list, i am running in sport awd. and you gtrs are in rwd. lol <{POST_SNAPBACK}> hehehe...ohh c'mon Shane.....stop being so cagey....we all know about your secret upgrade now....lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1756204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1JZ.747 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 hehehe...ohh c'mon Shane.....stop being so cagey....we all know about your secret upgrade now....lol <{POST_SNAPBACK}> what can i say, i felt left out. the little blue datto (jeremy) has intentions to do all rounds of the championship. i hope that field gets bigger, or i would say she will be all over. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/95048-wsid-drag-warz-sport-compact-meet-back-on-dec-17th/page/4/#findComment-1756484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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