Caltex Vortex = Bpultimate = 98ron

[noise]

yeah it makes no sense that caltex wouldnt just buy the normal premium off BP. This guy was very adament that it was the ultimate, I will try and get him to produce some evidence for interests sake.

[PHATR32]

vortex is defently nowhere near the same as ultimate!!!

i had to fill up on vortex one time, and it pinged like crazy when i had the boost up. the ultimate never pinged.

so who ever told you that was either bulshitting ya or didnt hear it right.

[Patto-]

Vortex 95-96 would be bp 95-96, not bp ultimate.

[MacGuyver]

Here's what the Caltex website says:

"Vortex is a premium fuel designed to clean your car's fuel system as you drive. Vortex petrol is available in two grades: Vortex (95 Octane) and Vortex 98 (98 Octane)."

If you look up the locations of Caltex petrol stations that stock the Vortex 98, you'll find that there aren't any in WA.

"There's very little meat in these gym mats"

[MLCrisis]

  noise said:

yeah it makes no sense that caltex wouldnt just buy the normal premium off BP. This guy was very adament that it was the ultimate, I will try and get him to produce some evidence for interests sake.

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Hi, guys. This topic has been covered a number of times - try searching on "refinery sharing" and select "any date" to get the relevant threads (instead of the default "30 days"). The following might be illuminating, which was one of the contributions I made to an earlier thread:

  MLCrisis said:

In sunny WA, the BP Kwinana refinery supplies all fuel to all outlets of all other brands - they are the only refinery within a coupla thousand clicks, so that would seem to make sense!  But they just sell raw refined product to the other guys.  Shell, Caltex and the rest add their own recipes of additives to produce their "own" fuel.  BP may, depending on the contract, add some basic additives for some buyers.  Being selfish, money-grabbing capitalists, BP don't sell their 98 octane Ultimate to anyone else in WA - especially not Shell!!  So Shell have to make do with a raw 95 octane product, which they chuck a few things in to give it the yellow pecten touch :thumbdwn: .

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

So BP don't give 98 octane fuel to anyone in WA, including Caltex. And the recent shortage of Vortex, wierdly at the same time as the BP premium and Ultimate shortage, was not a conspiracy, but exactly because there was a problem at the BP Kwinana refinery.

Hope this helps.

Cheers.

[noise]

I agree with almost everything people have said.

My first thoughts were "bullshit" when he told me.

Despite this he has said he will grab an invoice with octane ratings next time he can, and scan it for me.

will post it if he ever gets around to it.

[KeeFy]

If it really was 98, caltex would advertise it as 98. Why wouldn't they brand it as premium fuel when it is? When it's premium, it's worth more $$ than 95... and thus higher prices. Makes no sense to purchase 98 octane at their 98 cost price and not advertise it as 98 right? A company would do all it can to earn your extra buck, so if it's the real deal, again they would advertise it for sure.

My .5 cents worth

[Hotrod]

I sent a email to Caltex and asked weather they are or will be selling Vortex 98 in Western Australia and this is there responce.

Dear ****

Thank you for your inquiry and your interest in Vortex 98. Unfortunately at this time, we have no plans to introduce Vortex 98 to Western Australia. I apologise for any inconvenience.

Caltex Customer Feedback

G.P.O.Box 3916

Sydney 2001.

Freecall:- 1800 240 398

Fax:- 02 9250 5609

Email:- CFG@Caltex.com.au

I think that this answers the question once and for all

[noise]

Hotrod this thread is not about vortex gold 98 ron fuel, so your email doesnt answer anything.

I spoke to my mate and he said he got the invoice for me, with RON ratings on the delivery's. Should be interesting, Ill post it up when he scans it.

p.s. I still dont believe caltex sells bp ultimate.

[Hotrod]

  noise said:

Hotrod this thread is not about vortex gold 98 ron fuel, so your email doesnt answer anything.

I spoke to my mate and he said he got the invoice for me, with RON ratings on the delivery's. Should be interesting, Ill post it up when he scans it.

p.s. I still dont believe caltex sells bp ultimate.

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I don't know where you got Gold from but I have looked at there web site and it dosent mention the fact that it is called Vortex Gold 98 just Vortex 98.

But that dosent mater all i am saying is that I agree with you that they don't use Ultimate 98 just the Premium 95 Ron

[mitchy_]

  noise said:

Hotrod this thread is not about vortex gold 98 ron fuel, so your email doesnt answer anything.

I spoke to my mate and he said he got the invoice for me, with RON ratings on the delivery's. Should be interesting, Ill post it up when he scans it.

p.s. I still dont believe caltex sells bp ultimate.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

thats his point

Caltex dont sell Vortex 98 in WA, thus meaning we only have sub 98 RON in WA.

[Patto-]

  Hotrod said:

I don't know where you got Gold from but I have looked at there web site and it dosent mention the fact that it is called Vortex Gold 98 just Vortex 98.

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It used be called Vortex Gold, but now its called Vortex 98

Edited November 26, 2005 by shyster