Question On Exterior Differences In R32 Models

[tastyratz]

Hello,

Im from the USA. I drive a 240sx (known as the 180sx or 200sx over there to you guys) I want to do a front end conversion on my car with r32 parts. Fenders, Hood, Headlights, OEM bumper, etc. I did a search and scanned about 150 posts by now.... ive not really come up with good solid answers.

Has there been any modifications through the years of the r32 styling wise?

I know the gt-r had the motorized front lip, otherwhise is the bumper different at all?

I hear people talk about the different headlights gtr, etc. What exactly is the difference between the different headlights? did all r32s come with projectors? is there a difference between the h3c/h1 projectors?

Is there any difference with the fenders? (besides the logo on the side)

What about cross fitment collecting parts? (i.e. will I be able to use gtr headlights with a gts-t hood/fenders/bumper other way around etc. with no difference or some modification?)

I appreciate any and all constructive replies. Alot of people either love it or hate it and I dont want to debate that here, I like the look, its fairly simple and fairly inexpensive, its also my choice and my car. please respect that. Thank you for your help...

[wal]

please correct me If i'm wrong

As or the motorized front lip wing, it came out on other models as well, I have one on mine i think it is a M-spec bar.

GT-R bonnets, I believe the only difference from a GTSt (for example) to a GTR is the metal used. I think it is Alunimum on the GTR. So you should be able to use GTR headlight with GTSt bonnet. But you will have to look into the front bumper issues, some 32s have no grill and just a extra big lip ontop of front bumper.

As for fenders/guards they will all bolt onto each 32 model, as for silvia i don't know. you should ask this same question at Nissansilvia.com

I have seen a S13 Silvia with a R32 front end, just can't recal where.

[wal]

Ok my mistake, The 32 GTR bonnet is not exactly the same shape. It is missing the big lip one the front. But it will bolt on any other 32.

[xRHETTx]

The GTR bumper is the one to go for, it is much more aggressive, and have a large opening for a front mount intercooler etc. The gtst bar is much more boring. The gtr bar is a little bit wider, but some people here have fitted it to a gtst with a small amount of modification.

The headlights are the same between the gtst and gtr, but the gts indicators are wider.

The gtr fenders (or front guards) are aluminium and are wider, and fit up to the wider gtr indicators and front bar perfectly. All the fenders had the gt badge on the side, non-turbo models have a blue badge whilst the turbo ones have a red badge.

Where in the US are you from? Im of to Colorado on monday to do a ski season of work.

[Beer Baron]

ok where do i start.

GTR bonnet is different to the GTST in two ways. 1 GTR bonnet is aluminium, 2 GTR bonnet does not curve around at the front.

GTR guard are different in 2 ways also. 1 they are wider and more curved than GTST guard, 2. they are aluminium

the GTR bumper DOES NOT HAVE A MOTORISED lip. this was an option on some GTSTs.

the GTR bumper is competely different to a GTST, it is wider, and has much larger ducts and also has a much lower front lip (which is seperate to the bar).

GTR headlights are different where they meet the grill

GTR indicators are different (they are wider)

GTR grill is different to GTST.

GTR bonnet catch is different to GTST too.

I don't think it will really be a cheap conversion. maybe go for an S13 silvia front end? it's a similar kind of look (well more so than the pop-up headlights front end you have now).

[gt-t_r34]

ive seen it before and it looked crap! spend you money on a strawberry face that will be a bit different in the U.S !

[tastyratz]

actually the r32 front is about 350$ USD cheaper for me to do than a silvia front, and going strawberry face is several thousand usd more! the r32 front is seen alot less, putting the s15 front on your s13 over here is common practice, the r32 front is more affordable for me, imho sexy, and something a little more challenging/different. Alot of the people who have done the front end have done a piss poor job on it, but my father owns a bodyshop and ive got aaaaallllll winter to get it perfect :-).

The skyline front is ALMOST a bolt on affair, only thing with it is that it is wider than the stock s13 front when bolted on in gts-t AND gtr form so you have to try to tuck things in a bit so it doesnt look out of place. Other than that redrill the fender holes and make a headlight mounting bracket. thats 90% of getting it on, the rest is really finess to make it mint.

Over in the us we have different slang. Let me know if what it sounds like im seeing is correct

indicators=corner lamps

bonnet = hood

bar= front bumper lower lip/add on ground fx? this is the one I have the most trouble with.

as far as the hood/fenders. how much weight does it save going with a gtr hood? is it worth going with a carbon fiber hood or should I save the money and just use a gtr one? the grill in the front I believe I read attaches to the gtr headlights so I know thats different, does anyone have any pictures of where it meets? Maybe I can fabricate a bracket.

how does the latch differ on the gtr vs the gtst? relocated/different type?

Thanks everyone for humoring me and helping me out on this. I want to be well informed and prepared on this so I can do a proper job.

xrhettx Im from massachusetts

Maybe I will go with a gts-t bumper and gtr hood-grill-headlights-fenders if I can get ahold of them. aluminum doesnt rust which is a very good thing on a car in my area. yea this isnt gonna be a show car for me at all, its a daily driver/auto-x that will never see a show.

oh and for the curious heres one persons conversion job done right. You can see however that he used gtr parts and it made the front hang down a bit too low not matching the already lowering bodywork from the kit.

Edited November 24, 2005 by tastyratz

[tastyratz]

another question came up as well, sorry to be bothering you guys with all this but its really helpful. factory fog lights.... are they any different for gts/gtr bumpers? I may be able to come across a set somewhere and I wanted to see if I should just pounce on them or if it matters if they are gts/gtr? thanks

[Beer Baron]

GTR doesn't have any factory fog lights.

bar = bumper bar = front bumper

lower lip is the bit that attached to the bar

bonnet=hood

indicators=corner lamps

[tastyratz]

would gts fog lights fit in the ducts from a gtr bumper?