Gtst Suspension tune

[SHUTO-BOY]

Hey guys,

i been using the stock suspension and spring for some time but they started squeaking and feels bad now so i guess im looking for new ones.

Most of the time i go drag racing so just want to hear your suggestions on what i should get,dont really have the funds to get a top coilover system.Was thinking of koni or kyb shocks with some sorta performance springs?

Apart from the actual shocks and springs,what other stuff do you guys do to make your r33's more stable,launch better,oversteer less, thanks in advance for any advise,im really in the dark here.

Outlaw

13.6

[G0DF4Th3R]

yeah mate good question. i've been meaning to ask the same thing coz i dun wanna spend to much money on the car seeing as to how im only keeping it for another year at the most.

[hawks]

i just got some new shocks for my r32 (bilsteins) they cost about $1200

custom springs from memory were about $400

not cheap, though nothing in a cheap shock is available for a skyline

[skyline33]

maybe try getting a set of second hand japanese ones.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Something like Koni adjustable shock-absorbers with HKS springs would be a very nice package, but for that money you could probably get a set of 2nd-hand coil-overs. Coil-overs will remove any nice soft ride that the car has, if you are thinking about it then get someone to take you for a drive in a car with coil-overs, it makes for a very bumpy ride and you might not like it.

See'ya:burnout:

[Merli]

Coilovers will kill your drag racing career. They are too stiff and won't let the car squat and launch. Mine just axle tramps off the line when I try and launch it (Drummond Motor Sport coilovers), but that's doesnt' bother me too much, as I'm a 95% track, 5% drags kind of guy.

Best suspension for drags is your standard springs and shocks, combined with a subframe and diff bushes (pineapples as people like to call them).

A good compromise for soft ride, ability to squat and launch, as well as good upgraded handling for everyday driving is the full whiteline package. They are EXCELLENT value.

http://www.whiteline.com.au

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Good call Merli, my coil-overs are crap for street and drags, but brilliant for the track, there are designed as a full-racing coil-over, so I shouldn't expect a comfortable ride. Everyone I've spoken to rates the Whiteline stuff very highly and for a complete package I think it would give one of the best all-round packages.

All us Jap enthusisast are too quick to jump on the coil-over bandwagon, and they are great, but there are some drawbacks associated with them, namely comfortable ride.

See'ya:burnout:

[SHUTO-BOY]

Cool thanks for the input!

Yea i think ill go for a more normal setup but ill guess ill still get either koni's or kayaba because my stockers have called it a day,.There are some Drag Spec coilovers such as from veilside(exact specs with the record holder freak r32),and HKS,but far too expensive and not for a gtst i guess cause the setting is set for 4 wheel drive.

Yep ill definitely be looking for the pineapple and whiteline gear.Ive heard of anti lift kits,well ill go to a suspension tuning centre to check it out.

[hawks]

also dont forget to get a decent set of tyres, as all of your suspension mods will be wasted if you have shite rubber.

[SHUTO-BOY]

Yea i just got myself some bridgestone re-540s's.Its so sticky,you can hear the sound of sand sticking to your tires(just like the new road with tar sound)even on a normal road.I feel im more in control of the car,but i gotta warm em up a little bit before a serious run.

[jlnewton]

Just watch rear tyre wear when you start playing around with ride height. My R33 is only lowered 1.5in and it chews the inside of the tyres. I suggest getting the Cusco rear camber arm for the rear (JIC has one aswell) to straighten up those wheels unless you don't mind replacing rear tyres on a regular basis. In theory should give a better launch too. Radial tyres don't like big camber.

I fitted the Cusco arms to mine a few weeks ago as I am up for rear tyres and didn't want that to happen again. They look pretty trick to. I have Bilsteins alround and they work quite well.

[SHUTO-BOY]

valuable input Jln,ill keep that in mind

Yeah skyline's if lowered can have excessive camber.I noticed that one my friends cars too.So i guess all the setting must be done properly when changing suspensions

[rev210]

you can have some increases in rear shock/spring rate, as long as the front is left fairly stock (small increases will be ok). If you are really keen on drag racing you can get a 90/10 shock setup on the front, pretty crap for going around corners but excellent to tranfer power to the back wheels.

Lowering the car is ok as well as long as you don't lower much more than 1inch.

[SHUTO-BOY]

excellent,ill keep that in mind too.This forum is amazing.

[Duncan]

jlnewton,

I was having a huge rear tyre wear problem which I thought was camber, turned out to be toe in instead. You might want to get your alignment checked.

[jlnewton]

Nah, alignment is sweet (I hope). I have had my car 16 months, got it aligned when I first got it, after I fitted the new shocks and after I fitted the arms recently. Front wear is good, just terrible inside wear on the back. I had a bit over 2 deg of neg. on one side and a bit under 2 deg of neg on the other side at the back. Way to much.

I got front and rear aligned all those times. Each time they set the rear toe to L +1.0mm & R+1.0mm. If anyone is using different please let me know. I am only going on what the "experts" tell me.

Alot of people with lowered skylines suffer from this though, IRS commodores are worse, some BMWs suffer pretty bad as well, as well as others.

[Mr Squiggle]

hey Shuto Boy,

i have recently purchased a whiteline handling kit. Bloody unreal!!

My car doesn't only look 100% better than stock it has also increased corner speed y about 15-20km/hr.

my car has a bit of a harder ride but i think that is good. feels sporty. with car being lowered a bit (35mm front and rear) the camber has obviuosly been changed. Shouldn't really bother the rubber that much providing you drive spiritidly.

the car launches a lot harder to.

[Kichigai]

Other than suspension,

the other ways to make your car more stable, point better and have less body roll are:

Strut bars front and rear to stiffen the car

Sway bar to lessen body roll

Pineapples to lessen diff tramp

I am refering to the part in your post which says "....apart from suspension...."

Just my 2 cents....

[Guest MRE]

Originally posted by jlnewton

Just watch rear tyre wear when you start playing around with  ride height.  My R33 is only lowered 1.5in and it chews the inside of the tyres.  I suggest getting the Cusco rear camber arm for the rear (JIC has one aswell) to straighten up those wheels unless you don't mind replacing rear tyres on a regular basis.  In theory should give a better launch too.  Radial tyres don't like big camber.

I fitted the Cusco arms to mine a few weeks ago as I am up for rear tyres and didn't want that to happen again.  They look pretty trick to.  I have Bilsteins alround and they work quite well.

Where, who and how much for this.

I droped mine 35mm and I too chew the insides.

[jlnewton]

I got mine through takakaira. I just had to buy something from there after I found that site! JMS also said they could supply them and I noticed PerfectRun has recently added them to there list of goodies. Takakaira ended up being the cheapest way to go but perfectrun isn't too far behind. Takakaira and PerfectRun also have the JIC version which is a bit cheaper. Both quality products I'm sure. UAS said they might be able to supply the JIC ones but I never got back to them to find out whether they could or couldn't.

Through Takakaira

Cusco $498

JIC $425

+ postage (checked 5min ago)

A bit $$$$ but if you intend on keeping your car for a while I think its worth the money. I can't afford new rear tyres every year just from normal driving.

MRE next time you guys organise a cruise I'll come down and you can have look if you like. Couldn't make Roma street had a birthday dinner thing to go to.