Consult Interfaces & Software

[paulr33]

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[NewKleer]

powerfc ecu may operate differently to nissan ones (almost certainly would) so they may not aim for the same thing as the nissan ecu does

[sl33ek]

thats awesome news about a PocketPC version being available NewKleer please let us know when its available and its cost *cough*Free*cough*

Just a question though, how would you plug the consult into the pocketPC? (I got ipaq)

[NewKleer]

most of them have some method of connecting up - ive got a hp jornada 568 (or something) and all it takes for me is to put a null modem adaptor on the serial sync cable (and this appears as com1)

google it (typically u will find gps sites that tell u how to hook up a gps serial unit to ur pda - however they hook it up is how you would) and u should be able to find out. i think a lot of ipaqs are the same, and it may just be a null modem adaptor on the serial sync cable (which u may have to buy if u dont have one).

as for pricing etc, i dont really know, thats something to work out later. obviously on one side it would take a lot of time to do so, so id hope to get some money from it, but on the other hand i know everyone are tightasses (despite owning skylines....). maybe donation or something may be the way to go, so that those who'd appreciate the time/effort that itd take to do can send along some encouragement

Edited December 2, 2005 by NewKleer

[sl33ek]

Sounds great, I'll look up about Null modems thanks for that B)

I wouldnt mind paying for the software, its worth it if it works ok and it would be alot better than driving around with a laptop.

I'd love to have the PDA display different gauges on demand

[NewKleer]

this is the null modem thing i got:

http://www.expansys.com.au/product.asp?code=3011213

essentially just switches over the send/receive data lines (pins 2/3) i think.

what model ipaq do u have?

[sl33ek]

Nice, and its pretty cheap too. Now i get it.

I got a ipaq h2200 I'm using it for GPS only at the moment, and it uses bluetooth to the gps device, I thought it was going to be similar to that.

[NewKleer]

bluetooth isnt something i know much about, and would at the least require some kind of extra hardware or something. bluetooth would be useful, but low priority atm. if pocketpc's can have an emulated com port over bluetooth (so no need to change the program) then it would just need some serial->bluetooth converter (if one exists) attached to the consult interface

[caz]

What your wishing for already exists guys....developed by a Skyline owner in Vic.

Im running a HP rz1710 PDA in my car now with brilliant software that has all the Nissan DataScan features such as sensor monitoring, Fault code check(and clear) ecu self learn reset, datalogging,0-60/0-100 ect.ect. plus it has a digital dash screen, it has shift light on the PDA screen and on the power/controller gauge.

Also has aux wiring to bring in 'something'(elect fan, water spray ?) at your chosen RPM.

It also has graphing software.so the logs I record I can view in colour graphs straight away, and when I sync the PDA with my home PC I can send the recorded data to anywhere in an email....great for specialist advice on engine/tuning issues.

But the best bit is that I can make adjustments to my fuel and ign timing and store them in 1 of 3 macros I just tap the mac1,2 or 3 on the digital dash and the preset tune activates. Got me an extra 18rw/kw on street boost (11psi)

I can also fine tune those depending on the weather, track conditions or what Im doing .

Its also been a safety net for me twice now.....got stuck having to use 95ron fuel which normally has my car pinging like mad, I retarded the timing which stopped the detonation, till I could get some full strength fuel.

The other time I got stuck in traffic on 35 deg day...my car was getting hot, she doesn't like no air flow, so once again I was able to retard timing a few deg and this time I dumped some more fuel in just until I could stretch her legs and cool her down.

It plugs into the consult port same as my laptop and techtom, I fitted the controller into my pillar pod. The controller supplies the PDA with power so it never runs out of battery.

And now the developer is writing the software to tune the stock ecu in blocks with a PDA

PS: I also have a USB Ecu/laptop Interface cable...NO adaptor, no box on the cable.

Caz...

[caz]

Im running what you want

See my post a few down>>

Caz...

Sounds great, I'll look up about Null modems thanks for that  B)

I wouldnt mind paying for the software, its worth it if it works ok and it would be alot better than driving around with a laptop.

I'd love to have the PDA display different gauges on demand

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[caz]

oops!

Edited December 2, 2005 by caz

[NewKleer]

what we're "wishing for" isnt something with a $600 price tag

if ecuextend wasnt so expensive then i'd have no need to even attempt to write my own - it looks like a great piece of software. but the bottom line is its priced such that its out of reach of casual or less than serious users. little bit of competition never hurt anyone!

Edited December 2, 2005 by NewKleer

[MearCat]

If you're not running a PFC, the consult interface with whatever shareware (or Datascan) whether it be NewKleers or a DIY, it a great cheap tool.

[caz]

You're right NewKleer, ecuXtend is high end stuff, it isnt for the casual or non serious user, its an ecu control /monitor system for performance heads, thats used everyday and its value to a prospective purchaser depends on what they want to do with their car. For me , its well worth $500 for the power increase, fuel economy, peace of mind and convenience.

Its more than just the software for that $500 too..

I shouldn't say "just the software"...it was 2 years in development and 6mths trialling and fine tuning.

You'd know that better than me about software writing tho NewKleer, you guys that are able to write these programs for our cars need to be supported 100%, we can access our ecu's now..but thats not much use without the software you write to enable us to do what we want.

Its not a 'competition' on this forum, its a sharing of ideas, knowledge and experience.

At the strip?? thats different...then its competition ....

Cheers Caz...

what we're "wishing for" isnt something with a $600 price tag

if ecuextend wasnt so expensive then i'd have no need to even attempt to write my own - it looks like a great piece of software. but the bottom line is its priced such that its out of reach of casual or less than serious users. little bit of competition never hurt anyone!

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[Kaz200]

Gee, this thread looks a lot like this other one:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...topic=95972&st=

[caz]

Hmmm, you're right Kaz...just under different topics . Amazing coincidence

Im thinking I've stepped on toes with my reply....

Cheers,

Caz...

Gee, this thread looks a lot like this other one:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...topic=95972&st=

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[NewKleer]

only its price makes it not for the casual/non serious user - its using the same consult functions that all other consult programs do/can

sure it might be worth $500 in it's usefulness, but i guess thats the distinction between doing something with the focus on making money, vs the focus on helping others out

[dbloemhard]

NewKleer, if you can get a simple display on a PDA where i can choose which gauge to display, and make it skinnable so that i can design my own Gauge screen i would be very happy.

I'll be running a car PC as well in the future, but for now i'd like to see something on my PDA

[NewKleer]

having a bit of a play around tonight, and have a reasonably primitive gauge happening (this one was for battery voltage)

still a fair way off (been working on pc version first as its easier) but getting there.

[caz]

Your correct again NewKleer , it does nearly all of the Nissan DataScan 1-4 functions, so it does replace my laptop and Interface cable ..but thats just the beginning of what I can do with this system Having a touch screen digital dash looks awesome and at night it sits on my dash and I read in in my windscreen, don't have to drop my eyes for a second...touch 'realtime' and I have full monitoring, I can check for fault codes at the traffic lights, hell.. I can tune my car at the traffic lights! and graph the results and email them to ya!.

I can set my shift light RPM and tell it when to bring in the thermo fan or intercooler spray. And when she's sweet I can check my emails. all without having to juggle a laptop.

So you can see it is a full on system that isn't designed for a casual user, its a digital touchscreen dash, its interactive ecu control and it will be ever evolving as new software updates come through for those of us that want a system like this.

only its price makes it not for the casual/non serious user - its using the same consult functions that all other consult programs do/can

sure it might be worth $500 in it's usefulness, but i guess thats the distinction between doing something with the focus on making money, vs the focus on helping others out

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For my car, and what I do with it motorsport wise, its 'usefullness' is well worth $500! What else could give me 18rw/kw more for $500?? and do everything else it can too? all on my HP iPAQ.. you saying that "its usefullness is the destinction between making money and helping people out" doesnt even make sence

and its offensive....you obviously have no idea how much of my time and knowledge goes into helping out other performance people just for the love of it.

You have made it clear that you personally dont see the value in in this software program, and thats fine...just as I dont see the value in buying a home made RS232(serial) cable with a box along it for $75 and then having to purchase a serial to USB adaptor, when you can purchase a workshop quality, highly developed,dedicated USB Interface Cable..with no box along it for $99 ?? (current group buy price)... But I have never said so.....before now.

Its horses for coarses NewKleer....

Cheers,

Caz..