Stagea Noob

[AMS]

Thats one fine looking Stagea, shoot us some pics when you slam it!

[illusiVe]

u bet, 1st day i have off, headunit will be installed (hopefully headrest TV's and 2nd DVD player + PS2)

aswell as me lowering that baby to the ground.. mm 4cm off the ground *drools*

guess ill have to make that exhaust abit louder too *pulls out drill* j/k

[Sydneykid]

1st thing im doing it is SLAMMING it

I don't think I am coming back to this thread ever.

[illusiVe]

whats wrong with lowering the car?

[Terminal]

i don't think it's the lowering, it's the slamming.

when you lower a car too much, you reduce the suspension travel, thus resulting in reduced performance of the car.

it looks good though

[Sydneykid]

when you lower a car too much, you reduce the suspension travel, thus resulting in reduced performance of the car.

Exactly, Nissan designed the Stagea to operate within certain heights, you can lower it a fair bit. But once you get to slamming height;

1. There is no travel left to absorb bumps, it hops from bump to bump. This means no steering, no braking and no traction to accelerate.

2. It hits the bump stops regularly, this means a harsh, uncomfortable ride. Add that to the most likely excessively high Japanese spring rates and you have a Stagea that no one will want to ride in.

3. Because of the Nissan design paramteters, the suspension geometry goes all to pieces, it will have too much negative camber and wear out the tyres fast. You will have silly stuff like 245 mm wide tyres with only 185 mm touching the ground. This means no steering, no braking and no traction to accelerate.

4. The drive shafts will be at excessive angles this means they soak up lots of extra power, this means slower acceleration.

That's why we say LOW IS SLOW

cheers:)

PS; I came back because I couldn't stand the thought of a slammed Stagea with 250 4wkw killing people because it wouldn't go around corners, won't stop and starts flying through the air at the smallest bump. We have lost too many Skyline owners to that mentality.

[illusiVe]

well more of what i was saying is, when i get home, im going to slam it to see how pimp it looks.. then raise it so i can get out of my driveway....just so that should mean instead of the car being @ 20cm off ground, maybe 8-10cm we shall see

^^ thats worse than 4wd

[Sydneykid]

Measure the height, centre of wheel to guard. Standard is around 385 mm front and 375 mm rear, that is around 5mm lower than brand new. The lowest you want to go and keep some suspension travel and sensible geometry is ~350 mm front and ~340 mm rear.

cheers

PS; That is what mine is in the pictures

[-FUZZY-]

oh kool ... had me worried there SK for a while bout if l was lowering the car too much. But l think 30mm drop springs should be alright for daily driving.

[illusiVe]

SK is just god in these forums, *bows* however knowing me, ill take it slightly lower just for looks uuntil i get a FULL aftermarket kit. then i can raise it abit

[Terminal]

Mine is about that height too SK, it looks a lot better but still handles well enough.

I have a bad problem with camber, as i'm running a whiteline camber kit, but it's still about -1.5 degrees out. the guy i went to said he can put some adjustable camber bars or some such thing in, apparently he said they use them in race cars to negate the rear camber. fully adjustable setup.

[qikstagea]

tough as a bowl of custard! nah just kidding thats an awesome colour, id buy it anyday. an S2, aswell. Was thinking about 34 taillights for mine, but you'd have to split them in half, i think...

another body mod to think about - suicide doors for the back. gangster caddy style. if your going to airbag it, go some spinners. not my style, but if your gonna go halfway, might as well go the rest.

ps mine sits more NAVARA than stagea too - seriously after some suspension. just a hassle getting it.

im going for a more function over form approach atm. get it going quick, handling well, and stopping when i tell it to, THEN ill worry about how pretty and babe pulling it is.

Edited December 10, 2005 by qikstagea

[Sydneykid]

Mine is about that height too SK, it looks a lot better but still handles well enough.

I have a bad problem with camber, as i'm running a whiteline camber kit, but it's still about -1.5 degrees out. the guy i went to said he can put some adjustable camber bars or some such thing in, apparently he said they use them in race cars to negate the rear camber. fully adjustable setup.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I am a bit confused, sorry I need some help;

1.Is that front or rear camber?

2. What does "-1.5 degree out" mean? The recommended rear setting is 0.25 to 0.5 degrees negative, so is yours 2.0 degrees negative? The recommended front setting is 0.5 to 1.0 degree negative, so is yours 2.5 degrees negative?

3. If front, you must have something bent, 2.5 degrees is unreachable with the camber adjusters set on max positive adjustment (regardless of how low it is). Best to find out what is bent rather than patch it up with spherical jointed arms.

3. If rear, you need 2 camber kits. One for the inner upper on the control arm and one for the outer upper. The outer bush is in the upright (hub), so has to be removed unless the workshop has a special tool for removing the bush while the upright is still in the car.

This thread explains why I don't recommend using spherical joints in road cars.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...64&hl=spherical

cheers

Edited December 10, 2005 by Sydneykid

[Terminal]

Sorry. it's rear camber. i must have said that a bit odd, sorry not a suspension mechanic. i meant it was at -1.5 degrees on the rear, even after i'd had a camber kit installed on it.

maybe i just need to get another camber kit installed, i'm not sure if i did get 1 or 2 put on originally, but the guy i got to install it knows his stuff, so i'd assume he's tried everything to get it straight.

[AMS]

My car arrived last night, its much lower than I first anticipated...Scraped it a few times already, exhaust sits very low. The ride is fantastic! Very firm, is that how they are supposed to be standard?

[AlexCim]

Very "firm"......NO!

Post up some pics junior

Edited December 11, 2005 by AlexCim

[AMS]

Yeah I will post up some pics either this arvo or tommorow sometime, getting a blueslip now etc. But yes, teh ride is firm, pretty bumpy.

[Sydneykid]

My car arrived last night, its much lower than I first anticipated...Scraped it a few times already, exhaust sits very low. The ride is fantastic! Very firm, is that how they are supposed to be standard?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What are the centre of wheel to guard measurements?

Should be around 385 mm minimum on the front, if lower than that chances are they not standard Stagea springs.

cheers

[AMS]

Cheers Gary, I shall mesure it when I get the car back

[illusiVe]

i think u might have aftermarket if its sitting low

which would explain why its hard.

not going spinners on my stagea. not my type either

suicide doors sound pimp and i want NOWW!!

i think ill organise rims, stereo, airbags, powermods, then suicide doors.