In Need Of A New Clutch

[abcent]

as title mentioned I am in need of a new clutch, the one Ihave now started slightly slipping a little while back an i'd rather replace it before its too far gone. Currently its running a 5 button ceramic Exceedy clutch thats been in there about a year and a half.

I think i'll be in need of a good but not too expensive twin plate so i'm looking for a little "advice from experience" about which brands are better than others an drivabilty etc... the car is still street driven (weekends) an fingers crossed i'll be participating an a few of the team wang track days next year, so it needs to be able to cope with some abuse...

STATS:

CAR: R33 gts-t series 1

ENGINE: RB25DET

POWER: well it made 248kw an 760Nm at Autosalon earlier in the year, but since then has a better fuel pump an tune. an am looking into getting it to the 280kw mark with new turbo set-up mid next year...

any advice is welcome, i've seen ORC twins on Nengun.com for $1600 delivered, but dont know much about them, the Exceedy one seem to be more expensive an Nismo copper mix ones being about $2000....so many options...

cheers

[GTRsean]

if you can get an OS gikken, they are cool to use. Still using tripple plate that came in my car os gikken and it feels like a twin plate. It's a daily driver. around 360 hp at rear wheels.

[StockyMcStock]

just replace the clutch with a new plate, if it's been daily driven for 1 1/2 years i'd say it's not doing too badly.

[RellikZephyr]

im running off a OS giken twin plate clutch (came with car)

and i find it very good good drivability (given that it is a twin plate) and bites likes hell when needed (6K launches not a prob and good fun )

but as far as i understand they dont come very cheap

but as a good clutch i would very much recommend them

Good Luck

RellikZephyr

[R31Nismoid]

OS twin - i love mine

They are a bit touchy... and are not meant to last as long as some others though if stret driven.

Maybe another brand, or a Jim Berry single could be around the same price?

[dangerous_daveo]

  R31Nismoid said:

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Maybe another brand, or a Jim Berry single could be around the same price?

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What he said. Mine is VERY bitey, peadal feels almost standard. That was $1200 with the pressure plate all machined up, and a new machined gtr fly wheel. Basically the whole lot new. I love it.

To get his number etc just google his name.

[Nathan_G1]

cant go past an orc twin plate dude - hell strong

[abcent]

is there an Austrlian site to look into ORC clutches more? or an Australian agent, keen to find out more.

Cant seem to find an OS GIKEN clutch new at a reasonable price

An i'll look into the Jim Berry clutches an see whats on offer.

thanks for the info guys...keep it comin. Anyone know generally how long a twin plate will last? I know is a "depends how you drive" answer but just a ball park idea... "there about the same as a single plate", "there worse than single plate", "same as a factroy item in a factory car"????

Good to hear there almost the same to drive with!!

[abcent]

also...anyone know thw advantages of Carbon cluthes? an if there worth it?

[chrissso]

The Hookup...

This dudehas got aclutch for sale...

Edited December 2, 2005 by chrissso

[R31Nismoid]

i would look @ a jim berry clutch Berin, raving reports from everyone i has spoken too

[srbskyline]

hey didnt want to start a new thread. Im looking at buying a clutch from marz just a few questions

my clutch has started slipping , i currently have 180kw but i will be upgrading turbo,computer,injectors etc so what kind of clutch would best suit me??

Its a daily driver , ive driven my mates rex he has a button clutch,i didnt mind driving it but not sure wheather id like it every day.

What are the main differences with the button kit and the sports h/d organic??

any feedback appreciated

cheers

[T04GTR]

ebay a os-giken twin plate

[abcent]

starngely enough I never thought of ebay, will have a look.

I'd prefer a new clutch to a secondhand one.

[T04GTR]

ebays the go. just make sure they have got good feedback.

and lots of pics of the product. most of the time there about 500bucks for a twinplate.

not the australia ebay.

www.ebay.com. type in gtr or rb26 or gtst etc. dont type in :clutch: because youl have to sift through a whole heep of oe replacment ones foe wierd usa cars.

Edited December 4, 2005 by T04GTR

[SleepingTalon]

OS Giken would be my suggestion. I've been using the Giken twin disk in my 4G63 drag car that's making 485awkw, and running mid 10's, and it's been great. Be weary of "carbon" claims, as many of them aren't actually carbon on carbon, but carbon on metal. The thing with carbon is that it's gotta be heated up before it'll grab. They usually slip when I'm tuning them on the dyno, until I put some load on them, then they grab very hard. They multi plate assemblys will let you slip them very well and keep the abuse off the rest of the driveline, that's the biggest advantage. On a side not, a TRUE carbon clutch, like ATS, or Tilton, will be extremely costly...like $5k US Dollars. There are some you can find for as "cheap" as $3500 US Dollars, but as far as Im concerned, that's still not cheap by any means!

[abcent]

think i'll steer clear from carbon then, out of my wallets reach,

nothin at all on the ebay front either

still waiting to see what price nengun.com can do a OS GIKEN twin plate for? Still waiting to hear back for Jim Berry. The ORC alloy twin plate new for $1670 delivered is looking pretty good though, 500ps capable, maintains good usable pedal for street/track use, used by Top Secret an in the GT500 racing (plus heaps more) so i'm assuming there great quality.

can anyone tell me if theres any mayjor difference between the ORC 559 an 709 series twin plates? apart from the obvious (ones 550ps rating an the others 700ps). Theres only like $15 difference between the two. Even though i'll be lucky to ever have 550ps....would i be better to get the 700ps?? or would it be much harder to drive with?

[SleepingTalon]

I think I paid $1800 for the Giken through my shop. If you want, I can check for you but it'll probably be Monday before I know with it being the weekend.

[abcent]

yeah that'd be good, wont be doing anything till i hear back from Jim Berry an a few other things anyway. probably wont bother buying until after the christmas madness, wouldnt want it lost in the post (if coming from overseas).

[abcent]

Spoke to Jim Berry today.....now theres a guy who knows a lot about clutches!!

Gave some good advice, will probably look at getting a single plate set-up from him, was told it can hold huge hp, an handle clutch abuse (ie: drag strip, circuit racing etc). Would advise anyone looking into clutches to give him a call thats for sure. Aparrantly i may even be able to use some components from my heavy duty clutch an same a bit of $$$, which is always good.

Ash: Is the single plate set-up what you were running in your 31? if so, what was the pedal like? an how did it look when you pulled it out for your engine transplant? was it in there for long?