NO_RSPECT Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 Hey guys, is anyone here a fan of low cars I just lowered the line and goddamn that thing is low now. Didnt really know what to expect, just jacked it up and changed the springs. dropped it again and hmmm LOWRYDA!! donna have to get those as plates. lol or BOUNCIN cos thazz the other thing it does now. Anyways just looking for any opinions on lowness. anyone else got a lowered line but not with coilovers (coilovers hmpff why do it properly when you can just dump it) and would like to share with me their driving experiences in terms of handling etc. And please no links to the whiteline website. lol latas RiaZ Hey Adrian I will try to call you about the "view the dump & front pipe session" at EVO R Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
APA Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 oi man i didn't get dump yet upset bout that so i just gonna get front pipe tomorow can still come down with me tommorow if ya want and come chcek out extreme machines in willeton wif me and mah mate? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-147698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
APA Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 where did u get it lowered man? how much it cost? what springs did ya use? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-147705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay95R33 Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 The front of mine is sitting at 105mm, 5mm above legal, and it's a right pain in the butt. Scrapes on anything that looks vagly steep. I'm actually going to raise it up 10mm. Lower than 100mm just isn't practical. J Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-147823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b2barker Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 Mine has Apexi coilovers which where far too low when I bought it. It used to scrape the tyres in the arches, and scrape exhaust bits on dips in the road. I lifted it 25mm, and it still below legal, but because I have stock body it rarely scrapes now. Except in my own driveway which has a big slope and a lump at the top. That 25mm didn't make a huge difference in handling, and its still set firm, but then I don't know how a stocker handles. Might want to have the wheel camber checked, or make friends with tyre retailers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-147900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ix9 Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 I have KYB Coilovers lowered below legal limit.. I must have the hardest suspension on earth!! I have stock Type-M front bar, and it scrapes on just about everything. the middle of the exhaust scrapes on speed humps at most shopping centres. the rear muffler (it's angled) is FAR too low to reverse upto a kerb efficiently.. bah! but all in all, the car handles like a dream.... looks dam schmick. So i'm happy. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-148028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtrken Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 When you lower em too low , and my front is right on that limit, then the front lower control arms actually invert and hang lower at the inner pivot than the outer mount on the hub. This creates a rocking effect on patchy road surfaces and also most shock bodies have no upward travel left which means on reasonable bumps the stops are getting hammered. Hence this is why you get the occassional crash over a bump. Having said that , a line lowered till the sills on the floor is a sweet look. As b2barker said , if lowered the camber goes to neg and on the rear it is hard to get it off as there is insufficient adjustment.Inside tyre wear then becomes an issue. Cheers Ken Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-148073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pva_Glue Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Can you roll a coke can under teh car? if not that's low and illegal cheers Joe Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-148190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NO_RSPECT Posted February 3, 2003 Author Share Posted February 3, 2003 100mm clearance off the ground is the legal limit, but from the wheel centre to the mid of the wheel arch needs to be lime 320mm in the front and 330mm in the back. mine is not near there. hang on..... just measured it roughly front is like 300mm and rear is like 285mm hehe looks slammed. if i could just get some 18's Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-149828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizmo Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 Cant roll a coke under mine. My tyres hit wheels arches too - but as for making friend friends with tyre retailers i havent had a prob with tyres they have been 90% tread since ive had it in Aug. I would be more grovelling to the likes of pedders! The rubber bit that stops it hitting the wheel arch on mine has warn away and the shockies have packed up (i think that was the basic explanation) so they wanted to put new springs in it which will lift my front end a little but the ansewer to that was NO! so now i gotta get special shockies - i think - suspension isnt really my area of expertise i kinda say its making my CD player skip fix it but i dont want it any higher - like the difficult female i am. Oh and be prepared for lots of scrapes thats why i didnt want to take on mandurah in the next run because that place just is shocking for low cars i cant even get on grannys driveway cos the curb is too high. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-151648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizmo Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 reading back about what GTRken said about the stops getting hammered and the bouncy castle effect thats whats happened to mine - i think the stops are pretty much non existant now. But theres apparently a solution without making it any higher that will last for ages and if it doesnt my mechanic will be seeing what the inside of my boot is like!! Just dont play the CD player on bumpy roads and advoid country driving because you'll be itching to get out of it by the end. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-151655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pva_Glue Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 Originally posted by Nizmo reading back about the bouncy castle effect thats whats happened to mine also a condition known as "TIt Jiggler" It's been also reported to male genders... due to Man Boob effect cheers Joe Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-151688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtrken Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 Nizmo , what type of shocks are on the car. If they are the usual Tein , Hks etc , they are designed for smooth racetrack style roads. They have HUGE spring rates and the shock valving is usually so stiff it doesn't need the springs. A few of us go to Wilkinson Suspension in Bayswater. He sells quality gear ( Bilstein, Koni , whiteline , superpro etc ) and can get you good shocks and springs that actually go up and down. Cheers ( no I'm not on commission ) Ken ps luv your signature hehe ...close the door.:lol: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-151694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtrken Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 Originally posted by Pva_Glue also a condition known as "TItt Giggler" It's been also reported to male genders... due to Man Boob effect cheers Joe I think you mean Jiggler , joe . Or do you mean joe Diggler ?? Cheers ( cracks me up , bwahaha ) Ken Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-151698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizmo Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 all sounds very expensive!! im the kinda person that likes to take my car to one place and have them handle it - too many cooks spoil the broth as i found out with my Z31. Ive been told estimate $500 to have it fixed - should last as long as i have car - sounds decent to me. I would rather spend the money on something that actually makes it go faster!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-151861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtrken Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 $500 to repair the shocks, supply new springs and bump rubbers sounds pretty cheap. I think Wilko does Koni and king springs for about $1100-1200 but at least you know they will work. Trust me , decent suspension will make your car go faster , around corners and even on the ( heaven forbid ) dragstrip. Cheers (ndf ) Ken Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-151904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtrken Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 Oh and in reply to taking it to one place, nobody is an expert on everything ( not even phptf ) but if you know which specialists to take it to a better result will occur. For instance I wouldn't take my car to Wilkinsons to get tuned but visavis I wouldn't take it to Exhaust dynamics for a w/alignment. Cheers Ken Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-151908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTS-t VSPEC Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 Hey Ken, I resemble that remark. I always take my car to the best man/woman for the job. I too have super stiff suspension, and will be taking it to Wilkinson Suspension to let them have a look at it and recommend a handling package for racing. Nizmo, $500 will not get you very far when it comes to good suspension, I would shop around and check out what each are offering first. See'ya:burnout: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-152028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pva_Glue Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 Maybe this is odd question.. if you set the spring too hard, wont it damage in side componets too? eg. speakers dash aircon systems...etc..etc? not to mension your vital body organs... cheers Joe Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-152308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtrken Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 your right joe , that is an odd question. Funny thing is , coming from you , it sounds perfectly normal:D Answer is no, you would have to take the springs out and replace them with solid blocks and fill the tyres full of concrete cos they have a cushioning effect as well. Cheers ( we get some weird ones ) Ken:lol: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/9705-low/#findComment-152325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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