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yeah my 1st car was a vl turbo calais,

if your comparing 4 door examples the vl has cleaner lines,

eg vl little bob tail boot compared to the box arse end of the 31

the calais has little trick features like half pop up lights etc

both 4 door examples handle shit anyways,

motors basically the same

both interiors are on par, (except calais versions much better)

more vls around

you will pat more for a vl

basically it comes down to what shape you like best

1 vote vl

vl calais (T3/4, custom plenum, huge cooler, dump,exhaust hsv17s on it hole sweeeeet)

^my 1st love hehe

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lol.. Forget about turbo he's not after turbo. If he was.. R32 or 180sx over the VLT is an easy choice.

Non-Turbo.

R31 in stock form is a more reliable and a slightly better performance package in all aspects. Chassis and acceleration.

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go a vl man, evey point im gonna bring up has already bn said, plus they can look mean as with the right wheel(im sure thats also bn said) but the trade off is a holden that wants to be a nissan and be labelled a bogan....happy shopping!!!

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The R31 Ti Interior Owns the Calais interior

my mate had a Calais interior and shit was falling and breaking off all over the place, the window switches even fall out....

the r31 interior is just plain shitloads better....

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Go the VL Calais there a beautiful car and when rebuilt run like a dream, RB30turbo with supra 5speed its a cheap reliable car. Plus are able to run reasonable boost putting out good power very fun. Leave out all the kits and crap. Had one that was hot house green over silver with 17" low profile perelli tyres just looked a treat. Will always look better than the R31 and perform pretty much the same.

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Dude if it ain't a Turbo Calais forget it! Go the R31...

I just had my VL blow it's head- once again illustrating the issues with VL and the F**king radiator mounted lower than the engine!

I have spent about 2.5k just keeping it on the road in the last year and it goes and blows a head on me!

So- If it ain’t turbo go the R31- less hassle and less attention from the unwanted.

My 2cs as a forma VL owner

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Dude if it ain't a Turbo Calais forget it! Go the R31...

I just had my VL blow it's head- once again illustrating the issues with VL and the F**king radiator mounted lower than the engine!

I have spent about 2.5k just keeping it on the road in the last year and it goes and blows a head on me!

So- If it ain’t turbo go the R31- less hassle and less attention from the unwanted.

My 2cs as a forma VL owner

:lol: Seriously any serious car enthusiast wouldn't buy a VL Calais if it wasn't turbo. Just cause your VL is a piece of shit doesnt make the ones the same.

And if you knew what you were doing you wouldnt be replacing the head with the standard head. For $2500 youd be close to gettng rb26head. The R31 and the VL are both over 18 years old so both will need attention to get them looking good again. The other good thing with the VL is there are a lot around for spare parts which you'll never have trouble finding. and when either car is finished, resprayed etc the VL looks ten fold better.

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