Fu**ing ちかんす

[akeenan]

Its about time... not being insensitve or antything. but im tired of f**king ちかんす（chickansu) on the trains. For those who dont know chickansu are f**king desperate business men(usually) who touch up women/girls on crowed trains in Japan. Its a very serious crime.If they are caught they lose their job and basically can never get another respected job ever again. In the past year I have saved a high school girl from one of these animals and also a lady in her 20`s from these low lifes. God help me if i witness another on a crowed train>

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/st...55E1702,00.html

Not being harsh but im happy......

But Tokyo police last year reported a record 2201 cases of groping on the city's trains.

these would be reported assults... id say that one ちかん（CHIKAN) assult happens on every busy train monday to friday....(at the minumum)

most of my female friends in Japan can tell me a story about this happening

it makes me sick...... japan is known for being polite from the outside >>> but form the inside>>> WTF.... sorry im angry

Edited December 21, 2005 by akeenan

[madbung]

Bwahaha..somethings never change hey, It was rife almost 20yrs back when I was there, my poor gf @ the time copped it a couple of times, being a tall attractive blonde girl she had to be very cautious re: travelling in Japan.

/edit could it be a side affect of living in a repressed and prudish society?? I wonder

Edited December 21, 2005 by madbung

[Rezz]

Yeah, I totally agree with you.

I've never been close enought to intervene with chikansu, but I had a problem with the voyuer type. My own experience with these guys was when my missus and I were waiting at Itami station in Osaka. This kinda nerdy looking guy was taking photos with his phone in our direction. I didn't bother with it at first, but after the 3rd time his little green light went off (with him holding the phone up photo-taking style) I went over to him and asked bluntly in Japanese "what are you doing? Did you take a picture of my wife?" to which he said "I don't understand... I didn't do anything!" I asked again and agian... then I snatched the phone off of him while he was frantically pressing buttons. Sure enough, he had deleted the first 2 pics, but one was left... the guys was trying to grab the phone back but I managed to see that he had taken a zoomed-in photo of my wifes legs from the waist down... By this stage unbelievably my wife was saying "Sorry!!!" to the guy!!! She took the phone off me and gave it back to the guy!! By this time the train had arrived and the guy sprinted onto the train and went to the front carriage.

I could've murdered the guy, but at the same time I forcibly took his possesion. What can you do? I hope I scared him into no doing it again but I don't think so. I must admit the guy had balls to take photos in full view like that... must've been a serial phot voyuer.

If anything, I think it's the Japanses way of non-confrontation that perpetuates this, so nothing short of the public at large intevening every time will stop it from happening.

[Beer Baron]

i was amazed at TAS how there were guys literally lying on the ground with video cameras trying to film up the girls dresses. i mean, i like a nice ladys form as much as the next guy, but that was a bit full on.

[Paradizzle]

I didnt realise shit like this actually happened! Wtf!!! Rezz you should have beaten that dude with his phone, then took photos of his mangled face!!!!

[akeenan]

its just one of the MANY mysteries which is kept hidden about japan.

[crack]

I didnt realise shit like this actually happened! Wtf!!! Rezz you should have beaten that dude with his phone, then took photos of his mangled face!!!!

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russell crowe style :lol:

[InspectorGadget]

Me and a mate caught one guy a number of years ago harassing a schoolgirl on the Joban-sen. He has basically trapped her in the corner of the doors.

We slowly made our way towards him without arousing his suspicion, and when the train made the next stop, we shoved him out as the doors were closing.

He missed his train, and the schoolgirl thanked us in English. It certainly made my day.

IG

[geno8r]

Wow, that's not cricket is it :S

[Kaido_RR]

not cool.

I watch alot of option and other jap car vids and you always see the dudes tring to touch the girls and pull up their skirts etc... at 1st i through it was just a joke but some of it is really dirty...

[Rossman]

i always thought japanese ppl were very polite and curtious. i have heard of such things since then and am another who is disgusted by the things that go on over there in japan, just the disrespect for asian women is just not right =(

i am a total lover of all asian girls, but have the utmost respect for them and would never dream of doing such things!

what is the jap businessmen's problems? i feel sorry for what the young girls over there have to go thru =S

- Ross.

[koleka]

if your a typical caucasian person, would it take much to stand up to these people? there normaly small no?

[Laurence]

if your a typical caucasian person, would it take much to stand up to these people? there normaly small no?

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The only time I have seen something like this was a guy who was about as

big as me, which is damn big for a Japanese guy. He was leering over a

girl on the train and making her squirm, so I thought I would return the

favour and just came up and glared at him. At least it gave the poor girl a rest.

Another time I heard a girl talking to a lady in hushed satanic voices, I decided

it would be a good time to practice my introductions on her! But I think this girl

was actually insane so I didn't even get her email.

[randominsanity73]

Oooook, after reading this i'm not so sure I want to come to Japan haha! Seeing as I do not have anyone to come with me, it no longer sounds like such a great idea *huffs* well not while i'm single anyway....

Thanks for the heads up!

[Mr Italy!]

^^ Hit the gym before you go, do a self defence course and learn how to kick some ass in that situation.... then brake the perverts arm when he makes his moves.

I'm sure he wont bother any other ladies on the trains again.

[funkymonkey]

the only beefed up gaijins seem to be US military... lol most of the aussies I met in japan were all weedy skinny blokes don't think they'll intimidate the pervs much.

[RyanN]

the japanese seem to very voyeuristic; i 'stumbled' across this website that had an excerpt from a japanese game show where the the contestants, all female, would answer questions like all quiz shows, however the end prize was to have sex with a man in front of the studio audience (of about 7-100 people, and they were going at it full-on porno style).

[JeeTeeEss25Tee]

I've seen a short clip of that somewhere That was so cool, I mean sick !!

[Beer Baron]

ok, i dont think you can really make a judgment on japanese social behaviour based on 1 notorious video clip. It certainly isn't representative of japanese popular culture. In fact X rated pornography is illegal in japan, so all porn has 'mosaic' on the naughty bits. Prostitution is also illegal. This may have something to do with the pervs, as they are living in quite a sexually repressed society without and easy way to satisfy their need. Not that illegal brothels, and illegal porn doesnt thrive there though....

Most japanese people are nice, decent people, with a much higher social conscience and sense of community than people here.

Having said that i cant tolerate the sick puppys praying on nice, decent girls either and have put one or two on the straight and narrow... BTW i am 6 foot 3 and by no means slight. i have seen some things there, that if i saw a bloke doing that in sydney i would punch his lights out, in japan i show more restraint as it's not my country, and not my business. with a few beers in me the restraint fades a little as it's hard to watch men treating women badly... thankfully it doesnt happen a lot.

[akeenan]

thankfully it doesnt happen a lot.

are you talking about you drinking beers and then your restraint fades, or are you talking about chikan attacks not happening a lot. If its the second im affraid it happens a lot. They dont have posters up at train stations for nothing...

but with your other comments i totally agree

cheers