HypeR33 Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Noise is a funny one,How can they sticker us for noise when they let Harley Davidsons get away with it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thats right. I have been pulled over and had to produce my exhaust permit, and yet you can hear those things coming from miles away. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1815807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypeR33 Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 with neons, they have to be hidden from view, and not able to reflect off any chromed surfaces, they are also to be all of one colour, and not to flash. and linking it with the car lighting, your not allowed to have red lights displayed at the front of your car, so technically that rules out red neons. now to link it with emergancy vehicles, red/blue lights fall under police/ambulance lights, and now western power vehicles with orange lights are emergancy vehinces too(99% sure) so technically that rules out red/blue/orange, and then you are not allowed to display white light at the rear other than the reverse lights, so techincally again white, red, blue and orange are ruled out as colours for neons. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Has this changed recently? I had red neons under mine (until the rear stopped working), and I have been pulled over a couple of times and thats what they said...that red and blue lights are reserved for emergency vehicles, although I am not sure how they could mix up undercar neons for flashing lights on a roof. Anyway, both times they took my phone number to find out for sure and let me know and I never heard from them both times. So I assumed that they were mistaken if they did bother to call the technical department. I do know that to be legal the tubes cannot be visible to other drivers, and they cannot pulse etc as Mitchy says, but mine was connected to my light switch with an override and there wasn't any problem with that. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1815816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchy_ Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 I am pretty sure that for WA rims are not supposed to larger/wider than 2 inches from that stamped on the tyre plackard. So if it was stamped with 16 x 7, then you could go up to 18 x 9, but not sure really how strict they apply those rules....I think the standard noise level limit for exhaust is something like 92db or 98db...but there are guys out there with a lot louder, like mine is 102db and I got a mod permit for it, and there are others louder so dont know how strick they are on this. They are however very strict on ride height. Lowest part of the body must be at least 100mm off the deck, and/or headlights minimum 500mm off the deck, whichever comes first. In terms of other mods there seems to be big grey areas too. I have a atmo BOV that passed, the inspector just said I need a permit for it, so I got it added to the list...easy as that, where as others have said that they are illegal. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> rim DIAMETER can go up 2" from the largest factory option, but width follows my previous post, ie 7" max unless wider was a factory option. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1816074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuiE Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 im pretty sure the rear seat windows can be as dark as u want, and only the front 2 windows and back screen need to be the 35% limit.like a panel van or wagon can paint there rear windows (except rear glass) black if they want. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I had a (R31) wagon with 20% tint all round, when I got a sticker Warwick pits said I had to take ALL the tint off. I had bought an R31 sedan the same day that I got the sticker (got the sticker later that night) swapped the font and rear door windows, left the rest of the tint on and went to Midland pits. The guy said it was meant to be 35% all round, and couldn't be darker, even if it was a wagon, I asked what about vans and Pano's and he said they could do it because they where classed as commercial vehicles. He still passed me though The same probably goes with bikes, different rules I would take some of the claims in the first post with come caution, seeig as they think a n external gate is a BOV... I would rather hear something from the DPI, in plain english Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1816078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 (edited) Would be good tho if you got away with having an external gate saying it was just a bov hahaha They'd have to be pretty stupid tho... Edited December 28, 2005 by Josh Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1819357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKY 34 Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 the CF ...cars have to be older than 1993..that's when they change the law making Cf illegal.... pod filters have to be secured... BOV cannot be atmospheric has to plumb back... also FMIC cannot be water cooled... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1820249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneeza Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 Are the noise levels different for Motorbikes? I mean how do Harleys get away with the loudness of their exhausts over ours? Those things can be deafening.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1820283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 I would say they do - I can't remember what the dataplate said on my mate's bike for rated noise... I would say it is tho... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1820304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuiE Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 also FMIC cannot be water cooled... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> that's interesting....why? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1821159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 I was unaware of this - I thought it was just on the track that they didn't like you using water cooling... wouldn't think it would matter on the street... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1821630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SideWaysChef Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Atmo BOV will get passed at the pits, as long as they do not produce to much "noise" which is totally up to the discretion of the inspector just disengage the BOV when you go over the pits resulting it the noise coming out through the air filter all muffled just make sure you get a permit for it and on that note, if you have a permit mod, dont keep the original in your car as the cops have a tendancy to rip them up Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1821756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Laminate it.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1821841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGuyver Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Does anyone know why you aren't allowed to have tyres wider than 9", and also why the front tyres and the rear tyres have to be the same width? As long as nothing is brushing or touching anything I can't see any reason why they are illegal, like from a safety perspective or something. "I eated the purple berries... they taste like burning!" Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1822051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Because they said so... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1822277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SideWaysChef Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Because they said so... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yeah pretty much hey my rims are 7 1/2 inches is f**ken annoying keep having to borrow stockies when i get a yellow dont think the offset really helps me any either apparently you are only allowed to increase the Track of your car by 25mm which is stuff all my rims increase my track by like 2 inches if not more Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1824443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukits01 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Any idea if custom fuel system with external pumps and surge tanks is allowed? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1824590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N I B Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Yes if its done right its ok and all pumps cut off when the engine stops. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1827050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukits01 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 cool, so are you allowed to have an external pump mounted above the fuel tank? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1827061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Ok, so some of you may think I am speaking shit, cos what I am about to say will fly in the face of what some people have posted here, meh. I just had my rego transferred from SA to WA, the following were found to be legal 17.10 inch rims rear, 17x9 front, both were measured - the only thing the inspector commented on was the width of the tyre - had to be correct for the rim (they are slightly stretched, so he checked), he also checked the track, as I have widebody rear and pumped front guards. He also pointed out I had some rubbing under the rear, I told him that is why I got the adjustable rear camber arms and he was happy. They will not give a permit for exhausts or suspension. I had coilovers and adjustable arms fitted, no problems, but he also wouldnt give me permits for them - he said 'they are either legal or not' Same for my wheels. Car legal exhaust is 90db, MC its like 98 or 100 or something, but louder than car, truck is also louder than car. Guages can be fitted to the A pillar, but must be fitted in a manner that they will come off if you hit your head on them, or out of head impact range. I also got permits for Bride seats, centre gauges, steering wheel and handbrake cover. He didnt bother giving me one for the shift knob. I also got permits for intercooler and piping, manifold, catch can, front and rear strut braces and pod - basically all the aftermarket looking bits. Hope that helps He (the inspector) said he doesnt normally give permits for pods (or exhausts ) anymore, but as a couple of guys had been through recently with defects for pods, so I got one off him for it (he was also bitching about cops defecting cars who didnt know what they were doing. I was also told pre 1996 cars can have c/f or fibre glass bonnets, as they predate ADR front end crash test requirements. vents are ok, as long as they have mesh (to stop fingers). The bonnet must also have a double latching system (as the factory one does). Do yourselves a favour, if you have mods, get permits, its pretty easy, and I found the guys very reasonable. Its cheaper to spend $30 for a mod permit, than it is for a full inspection. (can save heaps of dramas too) Oh, and I laminated my permits too I love it over here, in SA, a car has to be practically completely factory to pass, including ride height. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1827111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 just had a look on the dotars website, apparently the widest wheel you can have on a vehicle that came out with a maximum tyre width of 205 - largest width is 10" 215 - largest width is 11" Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/99471-the-law-for-modification/page/2/#findComment-1827116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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